Friday AI - We welcome our robot overlords

CycloneErik

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I’ll disagree. But that’s fine. No high turnover. Probably because we don’t hirer people who take short cuts. I’ve passed on people who were more articulate on paper but weren’t in person or on the phone. Just saying that it actually makes you look better if the interviewer knows you wrote your own resume and coned letter b

I'm generally with you on this, but AI might have helped with your coned letter b.
 
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News flash. I want someone who can think on their own. Doesn’t even need to be perfect. In fact, I prefer it isn’t but the bones are there. It you ask 100 hiring managers, I bet 90 would say the same.

Something like this?
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Anyway, to get back to the original question in the thread.

I write a lot. I use AI frequently for idea generation and research. Google results have become so bogged down with junk that AI can (sometimes, not always) cut through that and deliver more signal and less noise.

I've asked AI to write numerous things but I never use it verbatim. I might use a word or a thought here and there but in my experience it just isn't quite there as a truly skilled writer. But if and when the time comes where AI can study and learn from your own style (as opposed to whatever it's learning from on the broader internet), I don't think it's that far off.

As an experiment, I recently asked AI to write a letter about an issue for a governing body that cited relevant research. It was flawless.

A couple weeks ago there was a particularly tricky Excel formula I was looking for. I described my problem to AI, it returned an idea that was on the right track but not quite there, and I went back and forth with it a few times until it was refined to suit exactly what I needed. Saved a ton of research.
 

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K. I bet 60% of the apps you've seen this month have used it and you have no clue.

I'm guessing the written word is a lot like what I do (visual art & design, product design).

People who basically draw for a living are already far more likely to spot art and photos heavily created by AI than people who aren't professional artists and photographers. Someone who is a professional copywriter or proof reader can probably spot it far more accurately than someone whose main job is in another area but has to read resumes as a small part of their job.

I really think we aren't that far away from that being in the past. Mistakes of content will always be a possible things just like humans have always been able to lie or make mistakes in the content, but mistakes that just alert us to "non-human" content creation won't exist much longer. Content will always matter but we're months or short years from generally flawless execution even for untrained idiot randoms using AI tools.
 

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My dad is a Boomer. I’m not, just a nickname. A nickname before “Boomer” was ever a now negative for you young folks. Just trying to say, you’re going out onto the world and are attempting to be hired by folks like me. IF, we know you didn’t write your resume or cover letter, you’re not getting a call back
You have already said, in this thread, you have engaged in phone interviews and it has been obvious to you that a resume was AI assisted after 10 minutes during said phone interview.

Something is not adding up.
 

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You have already said, in this thread, you have engaged in phone interviews and it has been obvious to you that a resume was AI assisted after 10 minutes during said phone interview.

Something is not adding up.
Ummm… yeah. That’s why I said you’re not getting a call back. Not sure what’s not adding up.
 
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I’m old and resisted for a long time but listening to the podcast Dan Sullivan and Peter Diamandis do convinced me to give it a try.
Now I use AI daily and it saves a boatload of time.
I don’t think I’ve ever taken the AI output and used it as is but it gives me a great first draft and the first draft is always the most time consuming at least for me.
I’m at the point now that knowing how my own productivity improved I’d be hesitant to put anyone on staff that wasn’t at least open to using AI tools.
 

enisthemenace

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Ummm… yeah. That’s why I said you’re not getting a call back. Not sure what’s not adding up.
I don’t know. Just seems like judgement might be misplaced a bit. Not a huge deal. I know you’re trying to help, and so am I.

Tools are developed all the time to boost efficiency. Have been since the dawn of time. If we don’t adapt along with them, we will be left behind.
 

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Huh?? Whatever dude. I’m done. Not worth the effort. Keep letting computers do the **** you don’t want to do. Don’t come here pissed off that you are so oppressed. Trying to actually give you some advice. In the corporate world, you won’t get any sympathy and you won’t be allowed to rely on AI. good luck.

You literally have no idea about the corporate world man. Every Fortune 1000 company is trying to figure out ways to use it.

For our meetings it’s darn near a requirement to have it on and it’s crazy good when you can’t make a meeting. It’ll tell me the most important topics based on what topic was discussed the most. What each person’s thoughts were broken up by topic. Any major highlight notes along with which slide they were on if there was a PowerPoint.

I can even take the notes and take a template I have and have it write up a statement of work based on my previous examples, my previous language I’ve used, and an example or custom made staffing plan.

It’s boosted my productivity and has allowed me to stand out amongst my peers in many ways. Some with the same mentality as you and I even work in the damn tech industry.

I don’t know what your industry is but you’re clearly afraid of it affecting your business negatively in some capacity. You’re too lazy or dumb or just plain too ignorant to want to use it for what you need. People have lied on resumes for decades and decades, a phone screening is always the second cuff, doesn’t matter who or what wrote the damn paper.
 

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Currently working on a project that integrates AI to automate decisions in the claim scrubbing process for bills sent to insurers. Also, over the next few years you might start to notice during doctor visits that they aren't staring at the computer as much thanks to https://www.oracle.com/health/clinical-suite/clinical-digital-assistant/
So initially I thought this link was just similar to the dragon program which is awesome but is already in use. But after reading this will essentially skip the note taking process all together based on recording conversations had with the patient and creating the note in real time? Do I have that correct? If so then damn. If not let me know what I got wrong.
 

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News flash. I want someone who can think on their own. Doesn’t even need to be perfect. In fact, I prefer it isn’t but the bones are there. It you ask 100 hiring managers, I bet 90 would say the same.
Literally zero chance that's even close to correct.

Keep in mind I'm not advocating for using AI to do all of the work and submit it as is. Nothing close to it. But, used intelligently, it can create a very solid foundation to build a better resume in less time. Admonishing people who are good at utilizing technology is asinine.

Would you prefer everyone still use slide rules (or even calculators) instead of building helpful spreadsheets in Excel using formulas? Because it's the exact same thing.

And, to the point others have made, if the candidate is putting in the effort to fine tune and work on the resume beyond what ChatGPT spits out you'd never know. Unless you haven't hired someone in the last 3 years, I guarantee you've called back someone who's used it.
 

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News flash. I want someone who can think on their own. Doesn’t even need to be perfect. In fact, I prefer it isn’t but the bones are there. It you ask 100 hiring managers, I bet 90 would say the same.
Man, you are out there looking for the best plow horses and most dependable farm hands while your neighbor is investing in that fancy new tractor. Ten years from now, that guy is buying your farm.

Despite all the headlines about kids using it to cheat on homework, it is a productivity tool. You wouldn't hire someone who uses pen and paper instead of Excel, or someone who uses the postal service instead of email. Would you want to hire a recruiter who wants to post openings in newspaper want ads instead of online?
 

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So initially I thought this link was just similar to the dragon program which is awesome but is already in use. But after reading this will essentially skip the note taking process all together based on recording conversations had with the patient and creating the note in real time? Do I have that correct? If so then damn. If not let me know what I got wrong.
Yep, you got it, skip a majority of the process. At the end the doctor just has to review/revise and stamp it as done. So, there's still the accountability for accuracy, just taking out the mundane part. I don't work in the clinical space just have seen this showed off in companywide and Oracle Health townhalls.

Not to mention, recording the conversations I imagine could come into play in malpractice suits if a patient claims something was said/done but really wasn't or vice versa.
 
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I find it hilarious we have many professionals on here from different industries saying they use AI relatively frequently and we have a hiring manager saying no one worth a **** uses AI. So either all of you AI people suck at your jobs or the hiring manager is doing a piss poor job of hiring.
 

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As a hiring manager. Which I am. I would never hire someone who took a short cut. It says more about their work effort than anything. Call me old school. That’s fine. But young adults out there looking for jobs need to know that us “old farts”
are actually taking these things into account when hiring.
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