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My guy, this is you saying that it is not true that the proposal happened earlier this year. Sparty then linked an article from this week and in the FIRST paragraph they brought up the proposal earlier this year and that this weeks discussions were CONTINUED discussions.

Next you’re gonna go “well February isn’t in spring”
Whatever, the first proposal was shot down, and did not pass, and we ended up with the 12 team playoff. Earlier this week the B10 brings it up again for 2026, same idea, different times. But some people are calling it the same thing, its not, if it were we would currently be planning under that plan.
 

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But everybody knows they were only left out because of injury. The committee said as much.
Ask yourself this question: "if that had been an undefeated Alabama team that just lost their QB would they have been left out of the playoff? The answer is no, FSU was left out because if they kept them in, that meant putting Texas in over Alabama because UT had beaten them at their place earlier in the year. No SEC team would have made the playoff and that was never going to happen, so to get a SEC team in they come up with the injury excuse to leave FSU out, much like they did with the magical 13th data point to get Ohio State in and leave out TCU.

The playoff committee may have rules to follow, but when its all said and done, they are ALWAYS going to put a name team from the SEC and B10 over teams from the other conferences.
 

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Because 3 quality wins is better than two. Forget what YOU think is a good team, record is all that matters. Beating a 7-5 Ark St team will be considered a better win than beating a 6-6 Oklahoma team.
We could beat an 11-1 G5 auto bid Arkansas St and the committee would view it as a worse win than a win over 6-6 Oklahoma. What are you smoking?
 

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Only way a G5 team would be perceived better would be if the G5 team was 11-2 and a champion of their league at the end of the year while the SEC team was 6-6 but even then you'd have a lot of people screaming that the SEC team was better because of the conference schedule.

No way a 7-5 G5 team is looked at as better than a 6-6 SEC squad though. I'd argue for that SEC team all day long too. Hell, I'd argue any P5 school from any conference being better than that team unless that P5 lost to that specific school.
 
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We could beat an 11-1 G5 auto bid Arkansas St and the committee would view it as a worse win than a win over 6-6 Oklahoma. What are you smoking?
That would be the only argument would be if the G5 team had 1-2 losses and won their league. And you're right there would still be a huge argument. That scenario doesn't matter though because the committee won't have an opportunity to put in a 6-6 SEC team considering there will be plenty of 8-4 and 9-3 teams to choose from.
 

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That would be the only argument would be if the G5 team had 1-2 losses and won their league. And you're right there would still be a huge argument. That scenario doesn't matter though because the committee won't have an opportunity to put in a 6-6 SEC team considering there will be plenty of 8-4 and 9-3 teams to choose from.
twojman wasn't talking about which team would get into the playoff, he was claiming the committee would view a win over a 7-5 Ark State as a quality win while beating a 6-6 OU is not. Which is a completely asinine thing to claim.
 

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twojman wasn't talking about which team would get into the playoff, he was claiming the committee would view a win over a 7-5 Ark State as a quality win while beating a 6-6 OU is not. Which is a completely asinine thing to claim.
Ohhh got it. Um, no. The committee is viewing the 6-6 OU team as much much better than the Arkansas State team. A 6-6 OU team this year will likely have 1 win against a top 15 opponent, could even be top 5. Their losses would all come against ranked opponents. Arkansas State will not play a ranked team the rest of the year.
 

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Well to be fair the NY6 Bowls are now part of the playoff.
How are these Bowls going to be seeded? If they take the CFP teams (12) and put them all in these 6 Bowls, that leaves 6 teams as victors., and uneven number for determining a final 2 (without a bye).

I'm assuming the top 4 ranked teams will get a bye in a 12 team playoff format? How would it go from there? And which teams would constitute the NY6 Bowls?
 

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How are these Bowls going to be seeded? If they take the CFP teams (12) and put them all in these 6 Bowls, that leaves 6 teams as victors., and uneven number for determining a final 2 (without a bye).

I'm assuming the top 4 ranked teams will get a bye in a 12 team playoff format? How would it go from there? And which teams would constitute the NY6 Bowls?
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How are these Bowls going to be seeded? If they take the CFP teams (12) and put them all in these 6 Bowls, that leaves 6 teams as victors., and uneven number for determining a final 2 (without a bye).

I'm assuming the top 4 ranked teams will get a bye in a 12 team playoff format? How would it go from there? And which teams would constitute the NY6 Bowls?
I believe it will be on a rotating basis of which bowls are to be used for the games. Have to think the Rose Bowl is going to want to be one of the major players in the playoff now that the Pac 12 is basically gone.
 
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If somehow Iowa State was able to host a playoff game. Is there anything that the turf crew could do to help field conditions so the game wouldn't have to be moved?
 

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Well hopefully you all follow https://twitter.com/CFBMatrix?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author and https://x.com/cfb_professor?lang=en

Go back and calculate the formula for all the past playoffs...many of you won't like what you see. Most of you are the same people that think that, 'stars don't matter.' The teams with better high school recruiting have a win % of .818% this season. So yeah, stars matter.

Carry on


How does this help you prove your opinion that a win over Ark St would be viewed better than beating a 7-5/6-6 Oklahoma?

Doesn’t this prove that most would think a 6-6 Oklahoma is better than a 7-5 Arkansas State team?
 
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How does this help you prove your opinion that a win over Ark St would be viewed better than beating a 7-5/6-6 Oklahoma?

Doesn’t this prove that most would think a 6-6 Oklahoma is better than a 7-5 Arkansas State team?

How about you use the formula and calculate all the playoff teams over the years and see what happens. I already showed a win over an above .500 Wyoming team was better than beating any team .500 and under for Texas last year.

I know there are so many preconceived notions, poor me/us type folks but just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it is wrong. We've got a big problem in society with that.
 
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Well hopefully you all follow https://twitter.com/CFBMatrix?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author and https://x.com/cfb_professor?lang=en

Go back and calculate the formula for all the past playoffs...many of you won't like what you see. Most of you are the same people that think that, 'stars don't matter.' The teams with better high school recruiting have a win % of .818% this season. So yeah, stars matter.

Carry on


Who has ever said stars don’t matter? At the highest level of competition the caliber of player is all that matters. While you can certainly have a lower rated recruit turn into an amazing player it’s a much lower hit rate then just starting with high 4 or 5 star talent. That’s just the way modern football works
 

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How about you use the formula and calculate all the playoff teams over the years and see what happens. I already showed a win over an above .500 Wyoming team was better than beating any team .500 and under for Texas last year.

I know there are so many preconceived notions, poor me/us type folks but just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it is wrong. We've got a big problem in society with that.
It’s not shocking a 9-4 Wyoming team is considered a better win than last years Houston, Baylor, and BYU those teams were BAD.

The Ark St. team that we saw a couple of weeks ago is not that good and is not a better win than freaking Oklahoma.

Also stars matter. They always have. You didn’t just stumble on a new revelation.
 

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I believe it will be on a rotating basis of which bowls are to be used for the games. Have to think the Rose Bowl is going to want to be one of the major players in the playoff now that the Pac 12 is basically gone.
The Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl are always going to be quarterfinals because they chose to keep their traditional New Year's Day slots every year plus that way they can ensure they get a Big Ten team and an SEC team, respectively.