ISU -3 @ WVU

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This got me curious, so I threw together a quick table for the week 7 spreads (including games that have already been played):

AVGMAX>1 Score<1 Score
ACC10.522.5 ( Stanford @ ND)24
B1G7.820 (Purdue @ Illinois)25
XII3.33.5 (x3)05
SEC18.134 (Miss St @ UGA)51
AAC11.126.5 (UAB @ Army)13
CUSA1521.5 (NM St @ Jax St)31
MAC69.5 (Akron @ WMU)24
MWC5.521.5 (Boise @ UH)25
SBC714.5 (Ark St @ Tex St)24

Pretty much no reason to watch the SEC this week. 18.1pt AVERAGE? Wow
 
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Looks like a pros vs Joe's battle. Line keeps moving back and forth from 3.5 to 3.
Because the public is putting way too much stock in the OSU-WVU game last week. spoiler alert, its fools gold.

ISU could ABSOLUTELY lose this game, but this is a somewhat one dimensional offense going against a Heacock defense. This is potentially the worst pass defense we've seen since Arkansas state. Yes their run defense is stout, but WVUs secondary does not have the athletes to go man on man vs anyone of our receivers, which in turn will allow ISU to run the ball.

WVU is Iowa with a true mobile QB and a MUCH worse defense, and we all saw how the Iowa game went right?

Fun fact, Greene's completion percentage on the season is worse than Mcnamara's.

*edit-the more I look at WVU's schedule this year, the better I feel about this game. Weve heard about their offense all week, but from a points allowed per game standpoint, they have only played 1 team with a defense worth a pulse, and PSU bullied them. Everyone else they have played has been 90th or worse
 
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Looks like Green ran the ball 10 times, for 86 yards but one of those was for 39 yards. He did have one TD rushing the ball. I really wish ISU would have their QB's running the ball more, either on RPO's or just scrambling if the pass is not there. Becht has ran the ball 19 times in five games, so 4 times a game, would love to see double that number.
I'd much rather have a good QB who operates from the pocket and has the ability to run for positive yards when available. Greene is an athlete playing QB. He's an above average player, but I think you'd change your tune if he was our QB. He is inconsistent and probably makes WVU fans want to pull their hair out. I like the steady play and leadership of Becht in comparison.
 

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I'd much rather have a good QB who operates from the pocket and has the ability to run for positive yards when available. Greene is an athlete playing QB. He's an above average player, but I think you'd change your tune if he was our QB. He is inconsistent and probably makes WVU fans want to pull their hair out. I like the steady play and leadership of Becht in comparison.
I would just like to see Becht running the ball more than what he is, either off a scramble or a designed run. Purdy looked very good running the ball last night for the 9ers, picked up some big first downs. It does not have to be an either/or situation, you can do both. Look at the kid from KSU, runs the ball a lot and still a very good passer.
 
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Given WVU’s propensity to run I think we’ll see more PT for Jamo Patton and Drew Sturges if he’s finally cleared to play. Big, physical safeties who are better in the run game than in pass defense. Let those guys attack in run support. Then put Cooper and Verdon back in on 2nd and 3rd and long. We’ve seen that already and I expect to see more of it in this game.
Patton is built to be more physical but still lacks some tackling fundamentals. That's not a good matchup with WVU's physical run game
 

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I would just like to see Becht running the ball more than what he is, either off a scramble or a designed run. Purdy looked very good running the ball last night for the 9ers, picked up some big first downs. It does not have to be an either/or situation, you can do both. Look at the kid from KSU, runs the ball a lot and still a very good passer.
Purdy and especially Johnson are faster than Rocco. Johnson at KSU has been anything but a very good passer lol.

Rocco's not a running QB. He's an elusive QB who is sufficiently athletic to get some yards. I definitely wouldn't want him running more than he needs to, which is the occasional keep on read option and scramble for first downs. It feels like they've struck a nice balance on this.

We have 3 RBs who have shown positive abilities this year and two of the best receivers in school history. We absolutely do not need Rocco to be running more designed runs for the sake of.....what exactly?
 

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Because the public is putting way too much stock in the OSU-WVU game last week. spoiler alert, its fools gold.

ISU could ABSOLUTELY lose this game, but this is a somewhat one dimensional offense going against a Heacock defense. This is potentially the worst pass defense we've seen since Arkansas state. Yes their run defense is stout, but WVUs secondary does not have the athletes to go man on man vs anyone of our receivers, which in turn will allow ISU to run the ball.

WVU is Iowa with a true mobile QB and a MUCH worse defense, and we all saw how the Iowa game went right?

Fun fact, Greene's completion percentage on the season is worse than Mcnamara's.

*edit-the more I look at WVU's schedule this year, the better I feel about this game. Weve heard about their offense all week, but from a points allowed per game standpoint, they have only played 1 team with a defense worth a pulse, and PSU bullied them. Everyone else they have played has been 90th or worse

The public is on Iowa State. I looked at draft kings last night and ISU had 76% of the bets.

It's more likely that the public bets enough to get the spread to 3.5 and then the pros take the 3.5 which knocks the line back to 3.

I think I'll bet ISU this week, the WVU pass defense does not match up well with ISU's passing game. That said, if you think this game is a 50/50 game, getting the home team at better than a field goal is usually a good bet.

edit to add: if I can't get ISU -3, I think I'll just live bet the game. My ideal scenario is WVU gets up like 14-0 in the first quarter and I can get ISU +10 or so. I'd probably dabble on the money line in that scenario as well (probably get something like 3-1)
 

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Here's a tidbit i learned from listening to 3 guys before the game. WVU's oline is the highest rated oline in the country according to PFF. Wyatt milum, wvu;s left tackle and future 1st round pick is the 2nd highest ranked offensive lineman in the country.

WVU will run the ball, and if/when ISu brings up the safeties to help, GG will take shots deep. I think WVU's success on offense is dependent on controlling the los, forcing ISU's safeties up, and GG connecting on those deep shots.

that said, the only hope wvu has of stopping ISU's offense is if it goes conservative and tries to establish the run.
Just checked. The Consensus Big Board had Milum at #73. Maybe my math is off, but that seems like an awfully long first round.

(Jalen Travis is currently 774, with a high of 212. They’ll learn)

Their grades are wildly inflated by played against OSU’s. They’re actually 13th in the conference in sacks allowed, with 11.

ISU has given up three, for second place.
 
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On the contrary, I was actually thinking of signing up somewhere and making my first bet ever. That’s how certain I am we cover.

No idea where to start, though. I’ll survive.
I probably have a referral code if you want to try lol
 
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This will be our toughest game until the the two to end the season. WV runs the ball very well, and will keep running it until you stop their run. Last week against Ok. State they ran the ball 65 times and only threw 19 passes the entire game.

Stop the run and force their QB to beat us, no turnovers and we cannot allow them to get out to a 10 point lead and let their crowd get into the game. So start fast for ISU and keep adding on.
Agreed, the semi's and the Natty will definitely be the toughest!
 
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ISU playing to attempt to go 6-0 is nothing I've ever experienced as a fan before. I was 1 the last time it happened. I'm kind of freaking out.
 
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