2024 Big 12 Championship Game Projections

Cyhig

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Update after Friday's/Saturday's games:

Iowa St.: 78.7% (60.6% 1st, 18.2% 2nd)
BYU: 50.3% (18.0% 1st, 32.4% 2nd)
Kansas St.: 28.3% (9.5% 1st, 18.8% 2nd)
Texas Tech: 22.8% (7.6% 1st, 15.1% 2nd)
West Virginia: 6.4% (1.4% 1st, 5.0% 2nd)
Cincinnati: 4.7% (1.5% 1st, 3.2% 2nd)
Arizona St: 3.3% (0.7% 1st, 2.6% 2nd)
Utah: 1.8% (0.3% 1st, 1.5% 2nd)
Arizona: 1.2% (0.2% 1st, 1.0% 2nd)
Colorado: 1.2% (0.2% 1st, 1.1% 2nd)
TCU: 0.6% (0.0% 1st, 0.5% 2nd)
UCF: 0.5% (0.1% 1st, 0.4% 2nd)
Oklahoma St.: 0.2% (0.0% 1st, 0.1% 2nd)
Baylor, Houston, Kansas: ha

Most common conference championship matchups:
BYU/Iowa St.: 36.5%
Iowa St./Kansas St.: 16.5%
Iowa St./Texas Tech: 13.9%
BYU/Kansas St.: 6.7%
BYU/Texas Tech: 4.2%
Iowa St./West Virginia: 4.2%
Kansas St./Texas Tech: 2.9%
Cincinnati/Iowa St.: 2.5%
Arizona St/Iowa St.: 2.2%
BYU/West Virginia: 1.0%

ISU record chances:
6-6: 0.0%
7-5: 0.6%
8-4: 4.4%
9-3: 16.4%
10-2: 32.7%
11-1: 33.0%
12-0: 13.0%

ISU odds of championship game at record:
8-4: 0.0%
9-3: 20.2%
10-2: 90.3%
11-1: 99.8%
12-0: 100.0%

One way ISU doesn't get in with an 11-1 record: ISU loses to KSU, and BYU and KSU win out.
78.7% chance of a 10 win season, even before any postseason play
 

Clonehomer

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Two conference losses already, and they still have tough games remaining hosting BYU and ISU and at Colorado. Running the table is going to be hard, and it won't even guarantee them a spot in the championship game. Also dropped a lot in Massey's ratings the past couple weeks.

These large conferences with no divisions means that losses are going to hurt more than normal. The unbalanced schedules will mean that you won’t always play the teams you are competing for a CCG spot.

Look at the Big10. tOSU still has to play PSU and Indiana where those two don’t play each other or Oregon. So tOSU is now going to have a difficult path to the CCG compared to a school like Indiana that has a soft schedule.
 

1SEIACLONE

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Seems like the fans still have it out for him, so a home win against a ranked KSU would be great for him.
Looking at their board, they have a lot of fans that are ready too move on from Brown. Lot of their fan base still thinking they are playing in the old Big East, but while decent, they have won a few seasons, they have been nothing special since joining the league.
 

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Looking at their board, they have a lot of fans that are ready too move on from Brown. Lot of their fan base still thinking they are playing in the old Big East, but while decent, they have won a few seasons, they have been nothing special since joining the league.
I mean… if my coach didn’t know the difference between pass interference and holding then I’d want him gone too.
 

Lyon309Cy

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Are we at the point of the season yet where we can start discussing who we'd prefer to play in the championship?
Are there teams we should be pulling for or against to give us even better odds? To this point I have generally been pulling against teams we don't get a chance to beat ourselves and pulling for teams we've beaten.
 
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ForeverIowan

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Update after Friday's/Saturday's games:

Iowa St.: 78.7% (60.6% 1st, 18.2% 2nd)
BYU: 50.3% (18.0% 1st, 32.4% 2nd)
Kansas St.: 28.3% (9.5% 1st, 18.8% 2nd)
Texas Tech: 22.8% (7.6% 1st, 15.1% 2nd)
West Virginia: 6.4% (1.4% 1st, 5.0% 2nd)
Cincinnati: 4.7% (1.5% 1st, 3.2% 2nd)
Arizona St: 3.3% (0.7% 1st, 2.6% 2nd)
Utah: 1.8% (0.3% 1st, 1.5% 2nd)
Arizona: 1.2% (0.2% 1st, 1.0% 2nd)
Colorado: 1.2% (0.2% 1st, 1.1% 2nd)
TCU: 0.6% (0.0% 1st, 0.5% 2nd)
UCF: 0.5% (0.1% 1st, 0.4% 2nd)
Oklahoma St.: 0.2% (0.0% 1st, 0.1% 2nd)
Baylor, Houston, Kansas: ha

Most common conference championship matchups:
BYU/Iowa St.: 36.5%
Iowa St./Kansas St.: 16.5%
Iowa St./Texas Tech: 13.9%
BYU/Kansas St.: 6.7%
BYU/Texas Tech: 4.2%
Iowa St./West Virginia: 4.2%
Kansas St./Texas Tech: 2.9%
Cincinnati/Iowa St.: 2.5%
Arizona St/Iowa St.: 2.2%
BYU/West Virginia: 1.0%

ISU record chances:
6-6: 0.0%
7-5: 0.6%
8-4: 4.4%
9-3: 16.4%
10-2: 32.7%
11-1: 33.0%
12-0: 13.0%

ISU odds of championship game at record:
8-4: 0.0%
9-3: 20.2%
10-2: 90.3%
11-1: 99.8%
12-0: 100.0%

One way ISU doesn't get in with an 11-1 record: ISU loses to KSU, and BYU and KSU win out.
Wow surprised we are at 90% odds of playing in Big 12 title game with a 10-2 record. Just dont see this team going worse than 4-2 down the stretch. Especially if we get a little healthier on defense after the bye.
 

MeanDean

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Are we at the point of the season yet where we can start discussing who we'd prefer to play in the championship?
Are there teams we should be pulling for or against to give us even better odds? To this point I have generally been pulling against teams we don't get a chance to beat ourselves and pulling for teams we've beaten.
I look at it simply. If we end up undefeated in the regular season and play undefeated BYU there's a somewhat realistic chance both end up in the play-offs regardless of the result; especially if the game is close.
 

inCyteful

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Seems like the fans still have it out for him, so a home win against a ranked KSU would be great for him.
he is 3-16 against Top 25 in his 6 years at WVU.

They have never been ranked in Brown's tenure.

Listening to Between the 'Eers this morning, they were calling him out for blaming the refs.

His seat will be scorching if they don't beat KSU, fair or not.
 

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Wow surprised we are at 90% odds of playing in Big 12 title game with a 10-2 record.
Massey thinks there's a lot of parity in the league this year -- it expects almost three more losses for TT, 2.5 for BYU, 2 more for KSU (who already has 1), etc. In most scenarios, 2 losses for any team is probably -- but not certainly -- going to good enough. (BYU might be the exception, because of a likely poor strength of schedule.)
 
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Hopefully this ends the “Utah with Rising is by far the best team in the league” comments. Maybe the Rising of old, but the Utes appear to have more issues than QB play at this point.
That was the most nauseating talking point of the offseason to me. So many analysts and commentators were so flippant about Utah instantly running the Big 12. They weren't good last year. Yes, Rising was out, but if your whole program is being carried by one old QB, how good of a program are you really? I know they've won a lot of games in the Pac 12, but they had cracks forming last season, and Whittingham's retirement is starting to add up.
 

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