When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

[HFCS]

In town for work is wonderful. What would happen in an evacuation situation as is happening in Florida currently? Still need a back up gas powered vehicle.

If it's stop/go traffic an EV basically coasts along forever. It can increase your range maybe 30-50% vs just driving 70mph on an open road. Especially somewhere incredibly flat like Florida you can basically stop/start/coast/break and hardly lose any charge. Ideal traffic jam cars.

The "panic" situation would be more like you have to drive up some massive mountain incline at a high speed with your foot on the pedal while cranking AC or heat because it's dangerously hot or cold outside. That's when range can plummet.

 

[CYedUp]

If it's stop/go traffic an EV basically coasts along forever. It can increase your range maybe 30-50% vs just driving 70mph on an open road. Especially somewhere incredibly flat like Florida you can basically stop/start/coast/break and hardly lose any charge. Ideal traffic jam cars.

The "panic" situation would be more like you have to drive up some massive mountain incline at a high speed with your foot on the pedal while cranking AC or heat because it's dangerously hot or cold outside. That's when range can plummet.

That is good to know for the stop and go. I was unaware of the increase in distance.

 

[HFCS]

That is good to know for the stop and go. I was unaware of the increase in distance.

I'm still learning myself, I took a mostly uphill mountain drive on a 100 degree day the other day and I was kind of sweating bullets at that combo seeing how fast my range was plunging vs what I planned for. On the flip side driving in city gridlock it seems to go forever.

 

[BryceC]

See, I struggle with this. I’m not opposed to EVs, but it needs to happen organically through private investments in my opinion. I’m just not convinced something like this is worth $16 million of tax money. I can think of many other things I would like to see government funds put toward.

That’s chump change in DOT terms. They spent twice that on a truck stop that’s going to be engulfed by Ankeny in 5 years.

 

[dmclone]

See, I struggle with this. I’m not opposed to EVs, but it needs to happen organically through private investments in my opinion. I’m just not convinced something like this is worth $16 million of tax money. I can think of many other things I would like to see government funds put toward.

I have similar feelings about ethanol.

 

[ISUAlum2002]

Full charge won't matter... Took 7 hours for me last night to drive what should have taken under 3. Also there are no charging stations or gas for that matter on alligator Alley to Miami.

There's a 250kW Supercharger in Ochopee on I-75 that is operational and open to other makes outside of Tesla. Ft. Myers to Miami on I-75 is only about 160 miles. Gas vehicles idle away their fuel much more quickly than EV's do, the 7 hours of drive time vs. 3 hours to go the same distance isn't going to be that big of a deal when many Teslas can do 275+ miles on a full charge. With that charging stop available I'd have no anxiety at all about making the trip, even in slow evacuation traffic.

 

[FinalFourCy]

No you don't. Charge up to 100% before hitting the road, and the Supercharger stations are all still operational along the main evacuation routes to refuel EV's. Can't say the same for many of the gas stations. Also, if you're stopped on the highway, EV's use practically no power. Even running A/C doesn't draw much from the HV battery. The traction motors are the main draw, and putting along slowly is more efficient in an EV than a gas powered vehicle.

Power isn't out there yet. And gotta remember that gas stations require power to pump gas into vehicles. You can only store up so much gas in portable cans.

Exactly. I did this in Ian and know friends in Tampa doing it now.

The lines at the Superchargers are horrible if they don’t have home charging or have an older Tesla, but so are gas stations

 

[isucy86]

See, I struggle with this. I’m not opposed to EVs, but it needs to happen organically through private investments in my opinion. I’m just not convinced something like this is worth $16 million of tax money. I can think of many other things I would like to see government funds put toward.

My first reaction is to agree. Especially when the chargers are being installed at Kwik Star and other for-profit businesses. But if government (really taxpayer) investment is what it takes in the early stages of EV product cycle, then I can live with it. Hopefully, the Federal or State government is getting a portion of charging station revenue vs. private business keeping 100% of mark-up.

Also I hope initial investments like this don't condition business to expect government investment in charging stages over the medium or long-term.

 

[dmclone]

I see a lot of misinformation on this post. If you want the details, this site does some q&a's

https://iowadot.gov/iowaevplan/docs/Iowa-NEVI-NOFO-Public-Question-and-Answers.pdf

Just a few examples:

: Iowa DOT has determined that the Reasonable Return on Investment on the project is defined as no more than 15 percent annual profit on the Project.

The technical requirements note that “A minimum of 4 permanently attached NACS connectors and 4 permanently attached CCS1 connectors are required at the Project site.” Are NACS adaptors considered acceptable if these adaptors are permanently attached to the CCS connectors? The result will be the same: 4 charge ports with each capable of charging CCS or NACS via a permanently attached solution. Answer 43: Yes, NACS adaptors are considered acceptable if these adaptors are permanently attached to CCS connectors.


Connect to the electric grid and be spaced no more than 50 miles apart and less than one mile from Interstates and highway corridors

Alternative fuel corridors are federally designated routes on major highways that allow for inter-city, regional and national travel using lower-emission vehicles. Iowa currently has four alternative fuel corridors: Interstates 80, 380, 29, and 35.

 

[RedlineSi]

A lot of misinformation, but also people who just don't know. That's partly on the industry, as they've done a terrible job explaining EVs to people. It still is a big learning curve to understand public charging, the advantages of EVs (for example stop and go), and really the largest EV company has been down right awful informing people.

 

[dmclone]

Just as an example, I saw a bunch of non EV owners(I assume) on FB celebrating all of the chargers available in the Des Moines metro. Come to find out that most of these people actually live in the Des Moines metro and will never use these chargers. People can't seem to wrap their heads around the idea that having chargers near your house (unless you can't charge at home) is basically worthless. What you should care about are the chargers 150-200-250 miles away from your house. I think it's the fact that people are used to buying gas near their house and don't understand the concept of being full every time you leave your house.

 

[mramseyISU]

That is good to know for the stop and go. I was unaware of the increase in distance.

It's physics.
F=kv^2

The k is a bunch of constants that are vehicle dependent but the amount of force required to move a car down the road is the velocity squared. So a car going 50mph takes 4 times the energy to move down the road as a car going 25mph.

 

[Kinch]

MSN

Story about electric cars going up in flames in hurricane

 

[dmclone]

MSN

Story about electric cars going up in flames in hurricane

At the bottom of that article
"It’s important to note that outside of salt water flooding damage, electric vehicles actually are much less of a threat to catch fire than gas vehicles. Data from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board shows that there are approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 EVs sold. That’s in comparison to are approximately 1,530 fires for every 100,000 gas-powered vehicles sold."

 

[CyCoug]

At the bottom of that article
"It’s important to note that outside of salt water flooding damage, electric vehicles actually are much less of a threat to catch fire than gas vehicles. Data from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board shows that there are approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 EVs sold. That’s in comparison to are approximately 1,530 fires for every 100,000 gas-powered vehicles sold."

In that case here's to hoping there is no saltwater flooding in Ames ever

 

[simply1]

Interesting prediction on battery prices falling

Electric vehicle battery prices are expected to fall almost 50% by 2026

www.goldmansachs.com

 

[simply1]

Tesla self-driving crash reports prompt NHTSA investigation

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is investigating some 2.4 million Tesla vehicles after reports of self-driving crashes.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Clone1992]

Never for me. If you want one or have one, then that's cool and totally your prerogative, but I will never own one which is also my perogative. I enjoy liquid fuel vehicles. To each their own though.

 

[Clone1992]

The Hummer EV truck with Crabwalk is very cool looking and I dig the "crabwalk" option. If they had a gas version, then I'd be very interested.

 

[dmclone]

Just got another free month of FSD.