When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 55 6.7%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 145 17.7%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 185 22.6%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 426 52.0%

  • Total voters
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simply1

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For a minute there, I read this as the new Costco in Ankeny has an EV charger, and I was excited, but then I realized you meant that new Costco's were installing EV Chargers. Plus it looks like you are in Portland, OR. ;) Do the Costco's out there have EV charging? It would be fantastic if they started putting EV charging at all Costco's, right next to the fuel stations....
This one was a new build north of Portland, no EV chargers for us yet. How far along is the Ankeny construction?
 

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I might as well do a sticky with my posts as they all say about the same thing. I now have 19,000K on a 2021 Leaf with the 165 mile range. For around town and 120 mile round trip jaunts it’s fantastic. IMO for an urban vehicle it’s about perfect. I always charge with a 110 outlet. Range is unchanged from new…still 165 miles. Did buy two front tires…seems the weight causes the tires to wear faster than an ice.
Have made a few longer trips (beyond the fully charged range) pretty easy but you do have to wait at least 30 minutes for the charge. I get nervous every time the batteries are down under 40% even tho that’s 65 miles or so.
BTW, there are amazing deals and some leases for under $100 right now.
 

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It would be fantastic if they started putting EV charging at all Costco's, right next to the fuel stations....
I'm all for more chargers, but I don't understand the Costco scenario. When I leave home, the Tesla is at 80%, when I get back from Costco I'm at 70%. I'm not going to pay 4x the price to charge at Costco than I am at home. I can't think of a day when I visited Costco and also needed to charge. I guess it would be handy if I lived in Mount Pleasant and want to shop at the Costco 154 miles away in WDM.


Take a look at the cars that are using the Tesla Superchargers at Hy-Vee, they are almost always from out of county/and or state. I guess the Costco in Ankeny would be ok since it's right next to the interstate.
 

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Now with that said, in the future, having locations for those who live in rentals that don't have charging, yes, fast chargers around town will help, but right now, the key is to load these up all over America for long trips.
 

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I'm all for more chargers, but I don't understand the Costco scenario. When I leave home, the Tesla is at 80%, when I get back from Costco I'm at 70%. I'm not going to pay 4x the price to charge at Costco than I am at home. I can't think of a day when I visited Costco and also needed to charge. I guess it would be handy if I lived in Mount Pleasant and want to shop at the Costco 154 miles away in WDM.


Take a look at the cars that are using the Tesla Superchargers at Hy-Vee, they are almost always from out of county/and or state. I guess the Costco in Ankeny would be ok since it's right next to the interstate.
I guess that was my thought process, being right next to Interstate 35. You're right, I'm not charging if I'm driving from the DSM metro.
 
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This one was a new build north of Portland, no EV chargers for us yet. How far along is the Ankeny construction?
The Ankeny one has been done for a while. Was thinking they were retrofitting, but I would guess that is a lot more work and cost to do at this point.
 

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The Ankeny one has been done for a while. Was thinking they were retrofitting, but I would guess that is a lot more work and cost to do at this point.
They might, sounds like this company can install them in 7 weeks
 

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This needs to be put out now, they would sell so many. I think what's holding a lot back is whether the companies are going to stay in business. With VW as the owner, that fear goes away. I was hoping VW would do better with their van, which seems extremely overpriced for what you get.
 
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I'm winding up my first mountain backpacking season with an EV. My EV (subaru solterra) is infamous for not having great range, only about 240 miles, but other than EV trucks I think it has the most off road capability and I do need a little off road ability to get to certain trailheads. My Crosstrek always did the trick (really no worse than when I rented a Wrangler a few times) and at least for year one the Solterra got it done.

My very first hiking trip with it wasn't even overnight and it was a failure...because I failed to plan. It was a trailhead at about 8000 ft and I was leaving from near sea level. But it's only 90 miles away. It was a very hot day but at that elevation the weather is always nice once you get there. I left home at about 60%. I figured I'd drive to the trailhead, hike to the peak, coast down the mountain and get a little charge back, maybe charge up somewhere on the 70 miles I'd have left to get home while I ate dinner. Well as I steadily drove uphill and with the AC cranked...I realized I was not at all getting the estimated mileage, then when I actually hit the mountain going up steep road I knew it was a possibility I'd barely make it there, I had to turn around and backtrack 20 miles and ended up at a busy charging station on Labor Day. It was just terrible planning. I needed to either leave home near 100% or charge at one of the many fast chargers in my own neighborhood before leaving. The combo of extreme uphill and extreme heat really did it in.

The good news is that my next few trips where I planned better went fantastically smooth even though they were 450 mile trips way into high sierras and some of the highest elevation in US where trailheads start as high as 10,000 feet. I can honestly say these other backpacking trips took me no longer than they do with my old gas and hybrid cars. The fuel at the DC fast chargers cost about the same, but because I left with a full charge from home and practically free fuel, it was still slightly cheaper than gas. I stopped twice on the trip, and by the time I took my dogs out, went to the bathroom, and got a snack I was at 80% or higher and ready to go. Really no extra time, I've driven through this desert to get to the same mountains many times and I stopped in the same areas I normally would. Of the maybe 7 charge stations we used we never had to wait and only one time we pulled in as the last open spot, the only bad one was the unplanned first time on Labor Day.

By the fourth trip we were commenting on how fun it is compared to just getting gas randomly wherever you happen to be when you get below a quarter. Planning where you want to stop actually improves a trip. I think my car will be open to the Tesla network early 2025 and the options for charging will basically double.
 

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I bet he regrets that admission at this point.

Why? Ford can't compete with them in China and the US market is protected by a 27% tariff on Chinese autos. The Chinese auto industry probably doesn't even need our market. Chinese BYD already outsells Tesla worldwide and they are not really trying to sell them here or in the EU for the foreseeable future. Going to be tough competition on the world market though, or maybe the potential market in China is so big they won't to be looking at exporting for some time outside of the SE Asia.
 

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Why? Ford can't compete with them in China and the US market is protected by a 27% tariff on Chinese autos. The Chinese auto industry probably doesn't even need our market. Chinese BYD already outsells Tesla worldwide and they are not really trying to sell them here or in the EU for the foreseeable future. Going to be tough competition on the world market though, or maybe the potential market in China is so big they won't to be looking at exporting for some time outside of the SE Asia.
You don’t think the Ford CEO regrets talking about driving a Chinese EV to Ford corporate which he’s helping to keep out in order to help the company he’s CEO of? Okay.
 

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The best part about this whole Scout announcement

"Scout won’t be relying on traditional dealerships — instead, it’s adopting a direct-to-customer model with sales and service handled by an “exclusive” network."

Before the Tesla, my wife owned a VW and I have a hard time figuring out if VW or Kia had worse service departments. In Des Moines, I think it was actually VW.
 

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The best part about this whole Scout announcement

"Scout won’t be relying on traditional dealerships — instead, it’s adopting a direct-to-customer model with sales and service handled by an “exclusive” network."
...so it's the Tesla model again