The ball went out around the 15-20. If he was in the end zone, that’s a ways away.
Officiating made two big mistakes
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Yeah - hard to tell who would had recovered that fumble. Just another example of self inflicted mistakes, though. ISU certainly didn’t play well last night. On the bright side, even with these mistakes, they still nearly won the game.
I just went back and rewatched it. It went out around the 10. There was a tech guy in frame. If that was intentional grounding then Rocco should have had a couple as well.
I should add that I’m glad Rocco didn’t get hurt trying to recover that fumble. Lots of big bodies diving, and Rocco’s arms were exposed
That would had been the most ISU thing ever: having your starting QB injured on a play nullified by a pre snap penalty
Agreed. It was a bad time to have such a sloppy game. To be fair, and its not just hindsight -
this game scared the holy crap out of me. Coming off a bye week and its home coming? And facing a desperate team?
Had this been Kansas or Cincinnati, I would have felt a little better but not a great deal.
But that team? Given those other factors? Worried me and we looked like Aaron Judge in the 5th inning of Game 5 of the World Series and literally took our eye off the ball
Agreed. And in general, I hate grounding. Not the call itself, but because despite it being clear in the rule book, enforcement of it is highly subjective.
It happens. But at the same time, it really depends on what the Z's are going to let go or not and is super subjective.
They had at least 10 different camera angles. We could see what the ref saw from a standpoint of what views he was selecting (it was actually interesting) but no chance could we see any detail.
It’s funny how the refs are only an issue when we lose…never see much of these threads the other 7 games.
We didn’t deserve to win last night. We had many opportunities and we didn’t get it done. This loss is on us- not the refs.
We didn’t deserve to win last night. We had many opportunities and we didn’t get it done. This loss is on us- not the refs.
Especially the UCF game. Specifically when 75 (who false started again yesterday on the sneak) didn’t get called for a false start on the game winner.
Teams know exactly what our defense will do the first drive, so as long as they have a decent game plan and don't **** up, they're guaranteed to move the ball and probably get a TD. I love the in game adjustments Heacock makes, but my god, you have 7-8 games worth of film on teams now to have some idea of how to play they defensively to start the game, but we just roll out with the same exact concept to start every game. It's not even an issue just this season. This has been a problem for 5-6 years now.
I can’t fault the refs for this loss, no way.
I’d say they missed the catch/bobble at the end but even so, it was hard to overturn the call on the field, imo.
I’d say they missed the catch/bobble at the end but even so, it was hard to overturn the call on the field, imo.
I just feel like our offense is stalling the last few games. Tech was a team would should’ve beaten by at least two possessions- thus removing the sting from the occasional questionable call.
I love our running game, but I don’t understand why we just insisted on running when Rocco should’ve been able to put up over 400 yards on Tech…then run the ball on occasion to keep the defense honest.
We have two of the best receivers in the conference- let them work!
I love our running game, but I don’t understand why we just insisted on running when Rocco should’ve been able to put up over 400 yards on Tech…then run the ball on occasion to keep the defense honest.
We have two of the best receivers in the conference- let them work!
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For a main-channel ESPN production the telecast was really not very good.
Right from the start on TT’s first touchdown when Dusty Dvoracek couldn’t stop talking about Tech’s great route-running and play design, yet they never showed a replay of the ISU defender either falling down or getting knocked down by a pick.
I too do not blame refs. ISU played bad and almost won despite that. Way too many drives they left pts on field self affected
That said I was surprised they called that a catch. I did not think it was hard call. Announcers said it wasn't clear that foot hit out of bounds before WR trapped ball on leg but my point is that it was clear nothing was touching in bounds when ball waa caught. It obviously moved from first touching and the foot did not stay down.
If they flag both guys for hands to the face it cancels the play anyway. So no interception still
The difference (as explained on TV) is that a QB has to "escape the tackle box" to avoid a grounding call. On the play in question Tech ran a double reverse QB pass. As soon as the other players touched the ball, what should have happened, is there is no longer a "tackle box" to protect the passer. i.e. escaping the non-existent "tackle box" cannot protect one from a "throw away".
The refs appeared to not understand that critical rule.
Maybe I missed it and the "Rocco could've been flagged" is in relation to ISU running some kind of double pass play, but I don't recall that type of creativity in our offensive play design.
None of the tackle box stuff matters if there is a receiver in the area, which there was.
More & more players have been playing with 2 mouth pieces lately, you sure he doesn't have a detached one also? See it mostly in college, had some HS players trying to do that this season too, though.
Every offensive coach will say the same thing "give the QB some easy throws to get him into a rhythm" and our defense allows a QB to do exactly that for the first quarter. The staff makes great adjustments after the first quarter and into the 2nd half, but why not go out and blitz the QB early and often and get after him? I do not want to hear about scripted plays, its an easy excuse to use, be aggressive and do not allow the QB to get settled in and it makes the defense a lot easier. What do we have to lose here, seems like every game we are giving up a TD anyway on their first drive.
