Pick Six record?

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He threw a terrible pass - rifled it from 10 feet away a yard behind the target. Its ok to say so.

And if Noel doesnt tip it, it probably goes right into the turf and no one cares.

He had several bad throws. An out that was almost picked. A few behind recievers. Underthrew Higgins on a long completion that could have been a TD.

He also threw some dimes. Didnt get down or go in the tank when he screwed up. Led them downfield for the game winning score.

He certainly hasnt been perfect but he has been good enough to get them to 9-2
This. He has not been great for much of the season but his leadership, intangibles and calmness are huge factors for this time.

Pure talent wise? Moberly is probably the most purely gifted QB in that room. He's taller, so in theory, can see easier and less deflected at the LOS. He's a little more fluid in the hips, so in theory, again, can be more a true dual threat and the ball seems a little more lively coming out of his hand.

That said, there is so much more to playing QB than just talent. And all of that is where Rocco excels. Somewhat similar to Purdy. Leadership, calmness, poise, intelligence, etc... it gets such a bad rap but he's a game manager and that really should not be an insult. He's more than good enough to help you win - and help you be 9-2. In other words, he's a high floor but not high ceiling IMO.

Rocco's a huge reason why we are 9-2. He's also a big reason why we struggled last night but then again, he's also a reason why we had the game winning drive. He's neither as good nor as bad as some think. He's ... a solid college QB.
 
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I’d add:

He’s the best crunch time QB I think we’ve ever had here. He’s led 4 go-ahead, late 4th quarter drives this year. All would have been game-winning drives but the D couldn’t hang on against Texas Tech. I’ve never seen that before as an ISU fan.

Not worried about arm strength, but two concerns I have are accuracy and against the blitz/pressure. He misses a lot of throws that I’d rank easy or intermediate difficulty levels. I’m not sure if accuracy is correctable.

He was better against the blitz last night, but he gets happy feet and panics when the blitz is coming. He appears to recognize it well pre-snap, but really struggles to get the ball out as the play unfolds. This I think is more correctable with time and experience.
Agreed, but here's why arms strength matters. Because like you said, at times he struggles against the blitz, arm strength gives you an out. Because 1) if you're late, it lets you be that and still complete it down the field. Like, Josh Allen struggles from the opposite. He thinks he can make every throw in the universe, and technically, he can, cause he doesn't have an arm he has a howitzer. But that also means he forces the ball.. but what it allows him is the confidence that if he comes off a read late, he can still deliver to whomever.

And against the blitz, he can complete it 15-20 yards down field falling backwards, running sideways, etc... where as if you move Rocco off his spot, his accuracy greatly diminishes (as it does for most QB's cause guys like Allen simply don't exist that often) because he can't set his feet. In some ways, guys with weaker / average arms are like a spot shooter in basketball. If you make them move, some of those guys really struggling shooting 3's. Average arm strength to slightly below average QB's are the same. Make them move off their spot, where they can't set and throw in rhythm, and accuracy plummets. That's where arm strength matters. And that's precisely why DC's blitz. Cause they know that most mortal QB's are going to have that same issue. Make them move, disrupt their flow and completion % drops like a stone.



He is extremely clutch. He is extremely poised, there is no doubt about that. He doesn't get rattled easily and even if he is, has the ability to come back. Those are traits you really can't coach but he possesses them in spades.


He's 100% good enough to beat K-State and win the Big 12 and give us a punchers chance in the playoff depending on matchup.

But I also don't know where I'd rank him in terms of Big 12 QB's. Sanders, then IDK, I think the kid at Cincy is pretty special. Right now probably the Sawyer at Baylor... then he's probably somewhere in the Getzlaff - Rocco-Avery-kid at Tech- group. Avery maybe #4 just because his ceiling's higher but his floor's also lower. So I guess Tech kid at #4, then Avery then Rocco then Getzlaff? So somewhere between 5th and 7th is where I'd rank him. Again, good enough to win with, more than capable, but not the peak performer either IMO
 

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I threw plenty of pick/sixes in intramural flag football. I turned out ok.
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someone on Twitter said we'd had 7 pick-sixes (8 if you count the UCF drop) since the beginning of last season.

Rocco has a very low INT rate (2.3%) only slightly worse than Brock Purdy (2.2%) and top 5 all time [passers over 100 attempts]

1) Zeb Noland 1.1%
2) Kyle Kempt 1.4%
3) Joel Lanning 1.9%
4) Brock Purdy 2.2%
5) Rocco Becht 2.3%

All that said, if you count the UCF drop at the one. Rocco gets his INTs returned for touchdowns at a STAGGERING 47% rate. It's mostly bad luck I assume, but essentially every other pick returned for six is wild smfh.
Part of it is bad decisions, but I also think our red zone playcalling is sometimes weird. Terrible throw by Rocco on the pick today, but what a dumbass playcall. A weird roll out screen thing to the short side of the field with only 1 possible target? Makes no sense to me
 
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someone on Twitter said we'd had 7 pick-sixes (8 if you count the UCF drop) since the beginning of last season.

Rocco has a very low INT rate (2.3%) only slightly worse than Brock Purdy (2.2%) and top 5 all time [passers over 100 attempts]

1) Zeb Noland 1.1%
2) Kyle Kempt 1.4%
3) Joel Lanning 1.9%
4) Brock Purdy 2.2%
5) Rocco Becht 2.3%

All that said, if you count the UCF drop at the one. Rocco gets his INTs returned for touchdowns at a STAGGERING 47% rate. It's mostly bad luck I assume, but essentially every other pick returned for six is wild smfh.
Bad luck would be a couple. 8 is simply poor decision making which is routinely called out during games by announcers when he is trying to force throws. Happens several times a game and has really hampered this team at times. Yesterday that was a 14 point swing.