*** Official #4 Auburn vs #5 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

[cyclone87]

This thread is moving fast, but is lipsey ok? Just gassed? His shot is fricking broke. Like about a foot short on everything

Shot fine in the first three games. Maybe wasn’t his night, but who knows he did have shoulder surgery right after last season concluded

 

[HoustonClone]

I think he just had nobody he could handle defensively. He came out after a baker three where he was just flat footed. He's never going to be able to match up with a team like auburn. It's not a slight it's just reality. Auburn had two pros out there tonight at his spot. Now why he wasn't in in the last play I have no idea. Never seems like we have a great plan out of timeouts.

He will have his nights, but it's just a brutal matchup for him tonight.

Good take and perspective.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

Auburn is now 2-0 in the Big XII against the two best teams from last year. Perhaps, they are actually a really GOOD team! I hate Auburn, but I am not tripping about ISU losing tonight. National Championships are NOT won in Maui in November!

Very good point

 

[RagingCloner]

Shot fine in the first three games. Maybe wasn’t his night, but who knows he did have shoulder surgery right after last season concluded

He’s had some bad misses. Even in the first 3 games

 

[cincinnaticyclone]

Auburn is now 2-0 in the Big XII against the two best teams from last year. Perhaps, they are actually a really GOOD team! I hate Auburn, but I am not tripping about ISU losing tonight. National Championships are NOT won in Maui in November!

I agree with you unfortunately games like this can be huge for seeding down the road in March. A win vs a loss tonight might end up being the difference between a 1/2 seed vs a 3/4 seed

 

[cyatheart]

I think Jefferson was gassed. He played really poorly down the stretch, for sure but it looked to me like he needed more rest.

He has a long way to go defensively and in the boards.

 

[cyclonestunners]

Biggest frustration is not understanding how ISU keeps finding ways to fade in big games…

Yeah. Like how they did in the b12 championship, or how they did in the 2nd round of the trny last year. Or against lu at home last year.

Oh wait.

Stupid fans gonna say stupid things.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Nah, 2 teams throwing haymakers, it was about as intense a pre-conference game as your going to get.

Oh I know what it was and what I saw. Was just looking for a pulse on how unhinged the game day thread got

 

[werdnamanhill]

Blowing an 18 point lead is very very bad. I don't really care that it's vs a F4 quality team to be honest. Showed some things but that second half is hard to swallow while also trying to talk about how good this team is

 

[cyfanbr]

Watson needs to be playing minutes over Heise

Forgot about Watson. Obviously Heise must be doing ok in practice, because on the court I’d definitely take what we saw from Watson towards the end of last year versus what we have seen from Heise so far.

 

[GTO]

They put up 81 tonight after not scoring for 6 minutes in the second half. We played one of the best defensive teams in the country. The offense will be fine. If you want to be concerned about something be concerned about Otz’ substitution patterns and the amount of offensive rebounds we gave up

Agree with this. We went through long stretches of no Dishon Jackson in the second half and I couldn't figure out why.

 

[alarson]

I understand that we need officials at every level, but how do we have the worst crew in the country for 4 vs 5?

they weren't the reason we lost, but they definitely left much to be desired.

 

[MartyFine]

 

[Dgilbertson]

Watson needs to be playing minutes over Heise

I’ve been defending him because “trust TJ” but I’m not seeing anything on his offensive Gabe that is better than Watson and Heise isn’t closing out and blocking any corner three point attempts.

 

[danvillecyclone]

I just hate holding the ball out of the timeout. It puts you at such a disadvantage to not start your set until there is 6 seconds left. No opportunity for secondary looks and ball movement. Just run offense and if you have a shot take it. Either way they were going to have plenty of time to get a shot off.

I just can’t understand the logic behind making them guard for 20 seconds instead of 6 seconds

In a tie situation, the logic is to hold the ball long enough to ensure the last possession and best case scenario get a shot off with 3-4 seconds left hoping for a make or a miss and a tip.

But that logic doesn’t work when your first offensive flow is to try to dribble between three defenders 23 feet from the basket.

 

[cyclonestunners]

They put up 81 tonight after not scoring for 6 minutes in the second half. We played one of the best defensive teams in the country. The offense will be fine. If you want to be concerned about something be concerned about Otz’ substitution patterns and the amount of offensive rebounds we gave up

I'm not worried about otz sub patterns. He's still figuring this year out, and he will. He always has.

 

[RagingCloner]

I agree with you unfortunately games like this can be huge for seeding down the road in March. A win vs a loss tonight might end up being the difference between a 1/2 seed vs a 3/4 seed

There is absolutely no shot a loss to an auburn team who was favored over us, pushes us to a 3/4 seed. Obviously have to win conference games but 0% chance this game alone changed our seeding that much

 

[Clonefan32]

I agree with you unfortunately games like this can be huge for seeding down the road in March. A win vs a loss tonight might end up being the difference between a 1/2 seed vs a 3/4 seed

It’s true, but we have a team that went toe to toe with a top 3 team in the nation. I’m not sure we see a better individual player than Broome all year.

Seeding is important, but we have a squad who can beat anyone. That’s all that will matter in March.

 

[BigLame]

This actually cost us the game, they had a bunch of rebounds they took advantage of and it was the difference. I would say about 10 points worth at least

Multiple on missed free throws, no less

 

[Clonefan32]

In a tie situation, the logic is to hold the ball long enough to ensure the last possession and best case scenario get a shot off with 3-4 seconds left hoping for a make or a miss and a tip.

But that logic doesn’t work when your first offensive flow is to try to dribble between three defenders 23 feet from the basket.

The logic works when there’s a 2-3 second difference between shot and game clock. With the 10 seconds they have it doesn’t make sense