And those two teams (Tulane and Indiana) combined had 0 OOC wins vs. P4 teams. Add Army to that list too. Meanwhile. BYU won @ SMU (ACC), Iowa State won @ Iowa (B1G) and Arizona State beat Miss. State (SEC). SMU is the only great win in the bunch, but 3-0 is better than 0-Whatever. Big XII still has some work to do, but one obstacle has been removed. Next is for one or all three of these teams to win impressively on Saturday and look good in the CCG. Left Colorado off the list since they lost @ Nebraska and have 3 losses. We do NOT want Colorado to have a chance to win the Big XII.
Difference is that Indiana would beat Memphis pretty easily, Memphis and OSU are just a touch different with the talent they field lol.
Saying no G5 team deserves to be ranked is the exact attitude that leads to saying only B1G and SEC teams deserve to be ranked. It's a ridiculous statement, and a symptom of what I call Big 10 Brain
I don't know about that. Memphis has a potent offense with the all-time AAC passing leader at QB. Iowa State found out all about that last year in the Liberty Bowl. Yes, I think Oregon and Ohio State would most likely beat them, but Indiana is still as much of a paper tiger as Memphis is at the moment. I actually think Memphis vs. Indiana would be a fantastic match-up.
I'd guess if Indiana and Memphis squared off against one another on a neutral field, Memphis would maybe be a TD underdog. They are a good G5 team. Saying no G5 team should be ranked is also ridiculous. The best G5 team this year took the #1 team down to the wire earlier this season, no different than what the #2 team did.
There's exactly one undefeated team in the country. So that means that every other team has "wilted" against someone. Indiana did so vs. the #2 team in the country on their field. Notre Dame "wilted" vs. Northern Illinois in South Bend. Miami did so vs. a mediocre Georgia Tech. All three of those teams have SoS ratings in the 60s.
Totally different, the schedules aren’t even close to the same, the caliber of athletes isn’t comparable. It’s why ND should be out of playoff competition for losing to a G5 team.
100% agree.
I disagree. Plenty of G5 teams over the years have been within the top 25 of college football teams. To exclude them before any games are played just because of recruiting rankings is the exact attitude that got us to where we are today in the media landscape of this sport.
If Tulane held course (and a couple other things) would you have felt the same way having 2 G5 teams in the playoff and no Big12 teams? Do you think the schedule G5 teams is the same caliber as those in the Big12?
That has nothing to do with statement "no G5 team should be ranked"
If Tulane was undefeated with a win over KSU and OU, I would have said they deserved a spot in the playoff.
Can the 16 seeds win the NCAA tourney? Can the 8th seed in the NBA playoffs win the championship? Can the last entry in the field win the Masters.
I don't entirely disagree but my problem is that they've "earned" it against a really really weak regular season schedule. Boise St. has I think the #90 SoS. What would their record be if they had the play the week-to-week grind of a P4 schedule? There's no way IMO they're 10-1 heading into the final game of the season.
