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Big 12 is a one bid league. The one shot they had was BYU not taking a 2nd loss due to their strength of the SMU win. No other Big 12 team has much meat on the schedule.
What does bug me is why Miami is still considered a bubble team. They haven't beaten anybody.
Regardless, we all know Alabama is getting that final spot as I think there are 6 at large teams that are locks, SEC and Big 10 CG losers, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Ohio State and Indiana.
I think the final spot comes down to the 3 SEC teams, no way does Miami or SMU get in over all three SEC teams.
Alabama has the best wins and the H2H over South Carolina but two really bad losses to Vandy and Oklahoma.
South Carolina has the best losses but wins over Clemson and A&M don't compare to Alabama and Ole Miss wins over South Carolina and Georgia and they lose both H2Hs over these teams
Ole Miss has the Georgia and South Carolina wins same as Alabama but 3 bad losses.
All I have to say is, good luck committee. I have no idea who to pick out of that group so if all else is fairly equal brand name wins out and Alabama destroys the other two schools in that respect so, again, Alabama is backdooring into a playoff spot just like last year.
The more I look at it the more that South Carolina's resume seems a bit weaker than the other two, just not good enough wins and lose the H2H to both including a blowout loss to Ole Miss.
What does bug me is why Miami is still considered a bubble team. They haven't beaten anybody.
Regardless, we all know Alabama is getting that final spot as I think there are 6 at large teams that are locks, SEC and Big 10 CG losers, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Ohio State and Indiana.
I think the final spot comes down to the 3 SEC teams, no way does Miami or SMU get in over all three SEC teams.
Alabama has the best wins and the H2H over South Carolina but two really bad losses to Vandy and Oklahoma.
South Carolina has the best losses but wins over Clemson and A&M don't compare to Alabama and Ole Miss wins over South Carolina and Georgia and they lose both H2Hs over these teams
Ole Miss has the Georgia and South Carolina wins same as Alabama but 3 bad losses.
All I have to say is, good luck committee. I have no idea who to pick out of that group so if all else is fairly equal brand name wins out and Alabama destroys the other two schools in that respect so, again, Alabama is backdooring into a playoff spot just like last year.
The more I look at it the more that South Carolina's resume seems a bit weaker than the other two, just not good enough wins and lose the H2H to both including a blowout loss to Ole Miss.
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Miami has no shot at all. The Syracuse loss officially knocked them out.
Easily the most overrated team throughout the whole process. I think they were ranked as high as 4 at one time and it blew my mind.
I could lump Indiana in there too because of their schedule but visually they look better to me than Miami.
No doubt but I see some prognosticators having them on the bubble. I think it's definitely between the 3 SEC teams even if SMU loses. A 2 loss ACC team has no business being in any at large playoff discussion, same with the Big 12.
exactly.
if we win Saturday and Boise Loses (or we both win and committee takes us over Boise) we will be the 4 seed. Only exemption could be if SMU loses that may open a door for a 3 seed.
OR
We will be a 10-12 seed with most likely the 12, having a true road game on December 20/21, in a win or go home scenario.
OR
if we lose the Big12 title game and then we go to the Orlando or San Antonio on Saturday December 28
The thing is there are enough fans for some to chose the first game, some the 2nd, etc. - regardless of whether it is Iowa State or Oregon. So, if the first game does not work out for some folks, the second game will. Throw the CCG game into this as well.
I'd be shocked if they took a 2 loss SMU team with one of the worst schedules of the playoff contenders and zero quality wins over 3 SEC teams with a top 30 schedule, two with a top 15 schedule, and multiple quality wins.
Minor correction: we won’t be “jumping Boise” with a win - just won’t happen. The only way we jump Boise is if they lose to UNLV… but that eliminates Boise altogether and UNLV likely slides into that spot.
I really don't think we have have some big bunch of teams that are top 12.
I think we have a LOT of teams (five of them) that are 12-30 range and I was really upset that the committee was saying AAC, ACC and MWC teams were better than us in that range when they just aren't and they just don't play a tough schedule.
MWC and AAC team should need to go undefeated to steal an auto bid from Big 12 unless their leagues improve dramatically. ACC should not at all be treated like it's a tougher league. SMU lost to BYU at home, the ACC's 2 loss teams are in no rational way better than Big 12 two loss teams.
I'm starting to wonder if some people, here, are fans of the SEC/B10, also. Some of the takes don't make sense, otherwise.
I get the one bid thing given that we had four teams tied at the top with two losses each. Would have been better off with an undefeated team and a one loss team in the title game. That would have given the league a real argument for two.
However, I fully expect the playoffs to be set up to boost the Big Ten & SEC and screw everyone else. We just gave them an easy excuse this year.
However, I fully expect the playoffs to be set up to boost the Big Ten & SEC and screw everyone else. We just gave them an easy excuse this year.
I agree but the ACC teams have gotten favorable rankings all year compared to Big 12 teams. Brand name plays a factor IMO but either way, they're one big leagues when it comes down to it. SMU is the one team in the two leagues that has a sliver of hope simply because of their ranking going into the CG but I think sliver is zero. SMU isn't getting in over Alabama, Ole Miss and South Carolina, just can't see it.
iF Iowa State wins the Big XII CCG + IF they do not get the Fiesta BYE + IF they do not get to host a home game, I hope the road game is @ Tennessee.
I remember listing to the 1982 game @ Tennessee on the radio rooting hard for the Cyclones.
The Cyclones fell just a little short losing 21-23, and I know I heard Johnny Majors mumble something about those Cyclones being tough!
Let's Go State!
Win the Big XII,
Play where they send you and win that game!
I remember listing to the 1982 game @ Tennessee on the radio rooting hard for the Cyclones.
The Cyclones fell just a little short losing 21-23, and I know I heard Johnny Majors mumble something about those Cyclones being tough!
Let's Go State!
Win the Big XII,
Play where they send you and win that game!
I think the posts in this thread that sound "pro-P2" are folks predicting what will happen and how the committee will handle things, not what they want to see happen.
Let's go big to start with and schedule Mississippi State.
There's absolutely no down side to this if they're going to pencil in Big 12 as permanent one bid league.
Play anybody who will do it, publicize when they don't. They have an extra slot compared to other conference that play 9 games, they could play us instead of those late by games against bad FCS teams.
I'm sure they'll say no. Let them say no, then publicize it along with that they play 8 games when a lot of other contenders are going to be going to committee with 10 conference games. That's winning politics. Yormark could spearhead it himself.
