When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

[dmclone]

It's crazy to me how many people buy a car just because of the badge. I wonder how many of these buyers know that they are buying a rebadged Blazer? Although those lease deals like pretty amazing.

I remember Honda doing this in the past with their Passport, which was an Isuzu Rodeo.

Honda's Prologue EV Is an Unexpected Hit: 25 Owners Explain Why They Bought One

The SUV had a stellar inaugural year, but it doesn't necessarily have the best tech or a sci-fi-inspired design. Could that be what the EV industry needs?

www.pcmag.com

 

[nfrine]

 

[duffing71]

Used EV are highly affordable now (under 20k for 2yr old vehicle and less thank 20k miles) and EV under right circumstances make sense. mostly as a commuter vehicle where you have a home where you can plug them in to charge and particularly if you have a garage where you can park it. its going to be a slow conversion rate but will happen like the disappearance of the stick shift. sad happening but will happen as charging network gets established and standardization of chargers across companies occur which are happening now.

 

[mramseyISU]

If I had a lightning.....

 

[simply1]

Hyundai has begun producing electric SUVs at its $7.6 billion plant in Georgia

Hyundai has begun producing electric SUVs in Georgia less than two years after breaking ground on its sprawling manufacturing plant west of Savannah.

apnews.com

They’re building a battery plant as well. Was supposed to enable them to get at that tax credit, so will be interesting to see how it goes for them if it disappears.

 

[IcSyU]

Hyundai has begun producing electric SUVs at its $7.6 billion plant in Georgia

Hyundai has begun producing electric SUVs in Georgia less than two years after breaking ground on its sprawling manufacturing plant west of Savannah.

apnews.com

They’re building a battery plant as well. Was supposed to enable them to get at that tax credit, so will be interesting to see how it goes for them if it disappears.

Manufacturers don't have much choice if CA is going to say you can't sell new vehicles there in 10 years unless they're electric. I have my doubts any manufacturer is going to jump at the chance to lose the fifth largest economy in the world.

 

[simply1]

Honda and Nissan merging as a result of some of the ev changes.

Japan's Honda and Nissan to reportedly begin merger talks

Nissan and Honda plan to enter into negotiations for a merger to better compete in the rapidly changing automotive industry, the Nikkei newspaper reported.

www.cnbc.com

 

[simply1]

Manufacturers don't have much choice if CA is going to say you can't sell new vehicles there in 10 years unless they're electric. I have my doubts any manufacturer is going to jump at the chance to lose the fifth largest economy in the world.

they’re waffling on that though.

Why Newsom's electric vehicle mandate is in trouble

EV sales have stalled, clouding California's ambitious plans for all new cars sold in California to be zero-emission vehicles by 2035.

www.latimes.com

 

[herbicide]

Honda and Nissan merging as a result of some of the ev changes.

Japan's Honda and Nissan to reportedly begin merger talks

Nissan and Honda plan to enter into negotiations for a merger to better compete in the rapidly changing automotive industry, the Nikkei newspaper reported.

www.cnbc.com

Or more accurately, Nissan is in deep financial distress.

https://www.autoblog.com/news/nissan-is-speeding-toward-a-financial-cliff-can-they-turn-things-around-in-time

 

[dmclone]

Nissan has been a ******** for a long time. CVT....

 

[HOTDON]

It's crazy to me how many people buy a car just because of the badge. I wonder how many of these buyers know that they are buying a rebadged Blazer? Although those lease deals like pretty amazing.

I remember Honda doing this in the past with their Passport, which was an Isuzu Rodeo.

Honda's Prologue EV Is an Unexpected Hit: 25 Owners Explain Why They Bought One

The SUV had a stellar inaugural year, but it doesn't necessarily have the best tech or a sci-fi-inspired design. Could that be what the EV industry needs?

www.pcmag.com

Not totally apples to apples obviously, but how many people driving an ES350 know they're driving a Camry? XTS/Impala, Nautilus/Explorer, etc. Those are obviously the same auto groups, but I'd pick the Honda with their suite of options and reputation standing behind it vs the Chevy. Toyobaru 86/BRZ and the BMW Supra are things that wouldn't exist without that type of cooperation. Never would have guessed Ford and Chevy would develop transmissions together. Your point stands, but I bet we see more and more of it.

 

[CascadeClone]

Nissan has been a ******** for a long time. CVT....

They smuggled the CEO out of Japan in a speaker case to avoid jail!!

 

[HOTDON]

Used EV are highly affordable now (under 20k for 2yr old vehicle and less thank 20k miles) and EV under right circumstances make sense. mostly as a commuter vehicle where you have a home where you can plug them in to charge and particularly if you have a garage where you can park it. its going to be a slow conversion rate but will happen like the disappearance of the stick shift. sad happening but will happen as charging network gets established and standardization of chargers across companies occur which are happening now.

It's crazy. I was looking at 2021 Mach-E GTs in the mid 20's. I'm finding it hard to resist.

 

[mramseyISU]

They smuggled the CEO out of Japan in a speaker case to avoid jail!!

That was one of the wildest stories of the last 20 years in my opinion.

 

[Cyclonsin]

Hyundai has begun producing electric SUVs at its $7.6 billion plant in Georgia

Hyundai has begun producing electric SUVs in Georgia less than two years after breaking ground on its sprawling manufacturing plant west of Savannah.

apnews.com

They’re building a battery plant as well. Was supposed to enable them to get at that tax credit, so will be interesting to see how it goes for them if it disappears.

Hyundai's metaplant in Bryan County is a HUGE deal down here. They've basically built their own city, complete with their own water tower (directly across the interstate from the existing county one), hospital, housing, etc. It's a massive investment in the area. Will theoretically create 8k+ permanent jobs all said and done.

 

[CascadeClone]

Hyundai's metaplant in Bryan County is a HUGE deal down here. They've basically built their own city, complete with their own water tower (directly across the interstate from the existing county one), hospital, housing, etc. It's a massive investment in the area. Will theoretically create 8k+ permanent jobs all said and done.

That Ioniq5 is one of the EVs I have been looking at, assuming I fit right in it. Reviewers love it, I like the future-y styling. But I usually wait 2-3 years after initial production, let them work the bugs out.

Goes back to my response to the OP and poll of 6-10 years probably about right, although maybe closer to 5 than 10 now. A lot has happened since the OP 18 months ago...

 

[VTXCyRyD]

That Ioniq5 is one of the EVs I have been looking at, assuming I fit right in it. Reviewers love it, I like the future-y styling. But I usually wait 2-3 years after initial production, let them work the bugs out.

Goes back to my response to the OP and poll of 6-10 years probably about right, although maybe closer to 5 than 10 now. A lot has happened since the OP 18 months ago...

It's already been out for almost 4 years. 2022 model began production early 2021.

 

[ScottyP]

My 2012 vehicle will need to be replaced in the next year or two. If I wanted to buy a used electric vehicle that can haul three young kids (this includes carseats), what options should I consider? Because I would buy used (I'm not buying new), what would be my estimated costs for a battery replacement? Are there places around the Des Moines Metro that do this? Also, to charge a vehicle at a charging station, how much would that typically cost?

 

[dmclone]

My 2012 vehicle will need to be replaced in the next year or two. If I wanted to buy a used electric vehicle that can haul three young kids (this includes carseats), what options should I consider? Because I would buy used (I'm not buying new), what would be my estimated costs for a battery replacement? Are there places around the Des Moines Metro that do this? Also, to charge a vehicle at a charging station, how much would that typically cost?

Not sure about what used EV's meet your needs, but to answer a couple of your other questions.

Battery Replacement-We now have a long enough history to show that battery replacements are extremely rare. A lot fewer moving parts means that you're less likely to have issues.

https://insideevs.com/news/717187/ev-battery-replacements-due-failure-study/

Charging Station-When you use public charging stations, expect to pay around the equivalent of fuel. The key is to charge at home. Last year, 99% of my charges were done at home, where I was paying the equivalent of $1/gallon.

 

[HOTDON]

Not sure about what used EV's meet your needs, but to answer a couple of your other questions.

Battery Replacement-We now have a long enough history to show that battery replacements are extremely rare. A lot fewer moving parts means that you're less likely to have issues.

https://insideevs.com/news/717187/ev-battery-replacements-due-failure-study/

Charging Station-When you use public charging stations, expect to pay around the equivalent of fuel. The key is to charge at home. Last year, 99% of my charges were done at home, where I was paying the equivalent of $1/gallon.

Home charger prices have come down considerably as well now that there's some competition. In my (admittedly limited) research you can purchase a decent 240V home charger under $700 now. I would wire my own so I don't know what it would cost for that, but it was a couple thousand dollars to get set up with 240V charging at home a few years ago with OEM gear.