Men's Basketball Eligibility Next Year

[NorthCyd]

I mean, yes, there seems to be a negative tone surrounding his play so far this season. I guess I dont understand it.

This team is not going to struggle to score. Period. In crunch time, in close games, when each possession is critical, I think you are going to see Lipsey/Gilbert/Jones/Heise/Jefferson in there to close out games. That is our most versatile defensive roster. They also score at a really high clip. It isn't a knock on Momcilovic or Jackson. To steal a term from baseball, that is TJs closer. He rarely uses that lineup configuration until it is time to close out the game and throw on the strangle hold.

I think expectations just got a little out of whack for him. The one and done talk started before he ever logged a minute and he's never quite gotten to that level. Great shooter and great skills, but he's not a first team all conference player or a lottery pick yet and that's where expectations were set. Probably unfair to put that on him because he is a really good player.

 

[CPG4ISU]

Has anyone been following the lawsuit with Vanderbuilt QB Diego Pavia?

Yesterday he won a preliminary injuction in the anti trust lawsuit against the NCAA, basically stating that because you cannot earn meaningful NIL money at the JUCO level, it cannot be counted as one of your 4 years of eligibility.

I heard other players in a similar situation should likely be able to join and receive extra eligibility. This would apply to Curis Jones's situation, so there is a good chance he will get a "fifth" year if he wants to use it.

 

[CycloneT]

Has anyone been following the lawsuit with Vanderbuilt QB Diego Pavia?

Yesterday he won a preliminary injuction in the anti trust lawsuit against the NCAA, basically stating that because you cannot earn meaningful NIL money at the JUCO level, it cannot be counted as one of your 4 years of eligibility.

I heard other players in a similar situation should likely be able to join and receive extra eligibility. This would apply to Curis Jones's situation, so there is a good chance he will get a "fifth" year if he wants to use it.

His Juco year was also the Covid free year. 2 years at Buffalo and 2 years at Iowa State.

 

[Letterkenny]

Has anyone been following the lawsuit with Vanderbuilt QB Diego Pavia?

Yesterday he won a preliminary injuction in the anti trust lawsuit against the NCAA, basically stating that because you cannot earn meaningful NIL money at the JUCO level, it cannot be counted as one of your 4 years of eligibility.

I heard other players in a similar situation should likely be able to join and receive extra eligibility. This would apply to Curis Jones's situation, so there is a good chance he will get a "fifth" year if he wants to use it.

Is that really the core of the argument? Seems like that would apply to players at FCS schools too. Hell, add a lot of G5 schools as well.

 

[rosshm16]

I think Milan needs to slow down just a bit. In a few of these bigger games he seems to be rushing a tad when he maybe feels obligated to contribute. Think he needs to slow down, let the game come to him and I think good things will happen. Other than that, he's still playing well and shooting it at a ridiculous clip overall.

Not sure I see this with him. He seems to me like unless it's a three-pointer, he gets the ball then takes 5-10 seconds making his move before shooting the Dirk Fade. Would like to see him be quicker/more decisive!

 

[CPG4ISU]

Is that really the core of the argument? Seems like that would apply to players at FCS schools too. Hell, add a lot of G5 schools as well.

It's definitely a slippery slope. But like most things NCAA, the guard rails are off at this point so who knows what will happen.

 

[Statefan10]

Not I see this with him. He seems to me like unless it's a three-pointer, he gets the ball then takes 5-10 seconds making his move before shooting the Dirk Fade. Would like to see him be quicker/more decisive!

Yeah I guess I probably was generalizing a bit from the Iowa game where he caught the ball twice in the second half and made forced some quick shots.

 

[CPG4ISU]

His Juco year was also the Covid free year. 2 years at Buffalo and 2 years at Iowa State.

I hadn't put that part together. Would that mean for sure he wouldn't get the extra year, or it's just less likely?

Even if he could come back, at some point 6 years is too much. Maybe NIL could match what he would make overseas or in the 2nd round/G League.

 

[rosshm16]

Curtis will have played four years of NCAA ball beyond the COVID year, so I think the ship has sailed for him unfortunately.

If he keeps playing like this he won't need another college year anyway.

 

[NENick]

Isn't the logical end result of all this that college athletes are employees and can "work" as long as mutually agreeable?

I can see the preseason article:
12-year veterans Tamin Lipsey and Big Rob Energy lead 8 new hires, 4 who headhunter TJ Otzelberger pulled from LinkedIn profiles and 4 others who recently completed high school apprenticeships.

Only 1/2 joking.

 

[rosshm16]

The part about "limiting NIL opportunities" is interesting.

Playing for a MEAC team vs. a SEC team limits NIL opportunities.

Playing in Ames vs. in NYC limits NIL opportunities.

Deion not being your coach limits NIL opportunities.

etc.

 

[ForeverIowan]

Anyone know if Lipsey played AAU ball with Treysen Eaglestaff from North Dakota? I saw Lipsey posted about him on his Instagram story. Guy dropped 40 against Alabama the other night. Leading scorer in their conference. 6'6" junior guard can really fill it up. Just a name to keep an eye on potentially if he decides he wants to play at the highest level his senior year.

 

[Statefan10]

Anyone know if Lipsey played AAU ball with Treysen Eaglestaff from North Dakota? I saw Lipsey posted about him on his Instagram story. Guy dropped 40 against Alabama the other night. Leading scorer in their conference. 6'6" junior guard can really fill it up. Just a name to keep an eye on potentially if he decides he wants to play at the highest level his senior year.

They both played for D1 Minnesota, along with Eli King, who also plays for North Dakota.

 

[Pharmacy99]

That's a good point. While he's a monster at the turnaround shot he doesn't really show that he's capable of a step back shot. I wonder if he has quick enough feet for this to be a go to move for him. His feet don't seem super quick, so maybe that's why we don't really see him do it ever. The NBA loves a good, quick step back shot. Milan will need to show he's capable of that at a high level before scouts really consider him to be NBA material. He also needs to show he's a better driver and finisher. I forgot which game it was (I'm thinking it was Marquette), but he went from the corner and took it in hard for a dunk. We need to see more of that.

Is he any worse than Cooper Flagg? Flagg is a lottery pick with what he has shown thus far? Flagg is scoring more because he is shooting more. If Flagg is a lottery pick, then Milan should be at least a first rounder.

 

[NorthCyd]

Is he any worse than Cooper Flagg? Flagg is a lottery pick with what he has shown thus far? Flagg is scoring more because he is shooting more. If Flagg is a lottery pick, then Milan should be at least a first rounder.

I get annoyed with the Flagg hype but he is a way better athlete. Go watch some highlights of him. He can get way above the rim.

 

[rosshm16]

I've never watched Flagg and don't know much about him honestly, but comparisons like that are tough.

Lots of NBA players can put up good efficiency numbers in limited time or limited shots but it's a much more rare skill to actually score a lot and do so efficiently, and that's generally what teams are looking for in the lottery.

 

[buf87]

Is that really the core of the argument? Seems like that would apply to players at FCS schools too. Hell, add a lot of G5 schools as well.

The opportunity is available at all levels. Follow Bo Bassett (A top high school wrestler). He is making huge money by marketing himself.

 

[Pharmacy99]

I get annoyed with the Flagg hype but he is a way better athlete. Go watch some highlights of him. He can get way above the rim.

I get that but he is not living up to the hype. He is a poor shooter.

 

[NorthCyd]

I get that but he is not living up to the hype. He is a poor shooter.

Ok, but you're talking about the draft. Players can improve their shooting, sometimes by quite a bit. Milan will never be able to do what Flagg can athletically. I don't think scouts are too worried that Flagg is struggling from 3 during the first part of his freshman season. He's only 17. (Is there a Winger joke there?)

 

[Thomasrickj]

Is he any worse than Cooper Flagg? Flagg is a lottery pick with what he has shown thus far? Flagg is scoring more because he is shooting more. If Flagg is a lottery pick, then Milan should be at least a first rounder.

Flagg plays a different game than Milan. I'm not sure why you're attempting to compare the two. Flagg is a better rebounder, he's a way better athlete, draws more fouls.