TJ's transfer portal hit rate

[Frak]

What does he lack in your opinion? I think you’re wrong. Add up every component and facet of the game and he excels. Simply my opinion.

Calipari wins because of his roster. TJ also lets his assistants coach far more than most coaches.

I vote he’s a great coach.

Lack? I mean, he’s not an x and o savant and his substitutions can sometimes be questionable. No one is perfect. Doesn’t really matter, the results speak for themselves. He’s really good at what a mbb coach needs to be good at at ISU. And that is implementing a culture and finding overlooked players that can succeed here. My post wasn’t meant as a knock on TJ, more to accentuate what I think he does well…that some our previous coaches did not.

 

[FerShizzle]

Lack? I mean, he’s not an x and o savant and his substitutions can sometimes be questionable. No one is perfect. Doesn’t really matter, the results speak for themselves. He’s really good at what a mbb coach needs to be good at at ISU. And that is implementing a culture and finding overlooked players that can succeed here. My post wasn’t meant as a knock on TJ, more to accentuate what I think he does well…that some our previous coaches did not.

TJ is one of the elite inspirational coaches in all of college sports. The effort and focus he gets out of his squad is something other coaches dream about. It transcends the Xs and Os.

 

[CycloneErik]

Still remember Robert Jones was one of the first (if not the first) and people were pretty underwhelmed. The reporting was that Rob was brought in to change the culture, not put up gaudy stats.

BRE ended up being key in rebuilding this program with a new set of standards. And shows TJ and the staff take a holistic approach rather than going after the splash get (*cough* Coleman Hawkins).

I'm pretty sure my first thought with him was along the lines of "I thought TJ was a better recruiter than that," "Well, at least it's somebody," and probably something like "Well, that's what happens when we're down and the AD hires his buddy," since I was so impressed with the hire at the moment.

All that said, TJ's hit rate on transfers is insane and generally impossible. He doesn't really miss at all. Even Pav had some moments.

 

[CyNews]

with the four transfers this season all looking like key contributors, how would you rank the transfers in the Otzelberger era? by my count he has only 2 (of 16) that didn't necessarily "hit" (Jackson Paveletzke & Tristen Enaruna) , but they were far from flops

How would you order them?
(listed below in chronological order as I came across their names)

Jefferson, Jackson, Heise, Chatfield, Keshon Gilbert, Curtis Jones, Hason Ward, Jaz Kunz, Bob Jones, Jaren Holmes, Osunniyi, Paveletzke, Kalsheuer, Brockington, Grill, Enaruna

Wish we would have had Osunniyi and Holmes and Brockington (!) and Gabe (!) for four years.

 

[Cyched]

I'm pretty sure my first thought with him was along the lines of "I thought TJ was a better recruiter than that," "Well, at least it's somebody," and probably something like "Well, that's what happens when we're down and the AD hires his buddy," since I was so impressed with the hire at the moment.

All that said, TJ's hit rate on transfers is insane and generally impossible. He doesn't really miss at all. Even Pav had some moments.

And the talent has been increasing as TJ's teams continue to win more. But what's more impressive is the buy-in all of these guys have. Everyone knows their role, plays within the team, and just wants to win.

 

[FerShizzle]

And the talent has been increasing as TJ's teams continue to win more. But what's more impressive is the buy-in all of these guys have. Everyone knows their role, plays within the team, and just wants to win.

The high school talent is starting to pour in too. Multi year guys in this program are what make it go brrrr.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Dude you are completely lost.

Just say you don’t understand the metric

 

[CycloneErik]

What does he lack in your opinion? I think you’re wrong. Add up every component and facet of the game and he excels. Simply my opinion.

Calipari wins because of his roster. TJ also lets his assistants coach far more than most coaches.

I vote he’s a great coach.

He's the best we've ever had. It won't even be close pretty soon.

 

[RagingCloner]

I don’t think that TJ is a great coach. Good, not great. But what he IS great at is putting together a roster and playing a system that makes the best use of the talent on the roster. And also finding guys that not only compliment the other players, but fit in with the culture.

Kind of the opposite of Prohm. He was not very good at piecing the puzzle together.

How does one dumb a post multiple times? Asking for a friend…

A great coach knows how to win with the roster he’s been given. TJ’s first team was scrubs compared to what he has now, and they still made a sweet 16.

I’m honestly curious to hear what your benchmark is for a “great” coach

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Brockington
Kalsheuer
Keshon Gilbert
Curtis Jones
Jefferson
Tre King
Bob Jones
Jackson
Ward
Heise
Chatfield
Jaren Holmes
Jaz Kunz
Osunniyi
Grill
Enaruna
Paveletzke

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

with the four transfers this season all looking like key contributors, how would you rank the transfers in the Otzelberger era? by my count he has only 2 (of 16) that didn't necessarily "hit" (Jackson Paveletzke & Tristen Enaruna) , but they were far from flops

How would you order them?
(listed below in chronological order as I came across their names)

Jefferson, Jackson, Heise, Chatfield, Keshon Gilbert, Curtis Jones, Hason Ward, Jaz Kunz, Bob Jones, Jaren Holmes, Osunniyi, Paveletzke, Kalsheuer, Brockington, Grill, Enaruna

missed Tre King

 

[FerShizzle]

Brockington
Kalsheuer
Keshon Gilbert
Curtis Jones
Jefferson
Tre King
Bob Jones
Jackson
Heise
Chatfield
Jaren Holmes
Jaz Kunz
Osunniyi
Grill
Hason Ward
Enaruna
Paveletzke

Ward is criminally low.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Ward is criminally low.

True. I did it rather quickly. Actually I'll bump him above Chatfield.

 

[Drew0311]

Ward is criminally low.

Ward first year was “we need to get a better guy than this”

Ward second year “can we get him for another year, this guy is good”

 

[FerShizzle]

Ward first year was “we need to get a better guy than this”

Ward second year “can we get him for another year, this guy is good”

BREs play the first 1.5 years was equally suspect.

 

[MuskMisk]

It is hard to rank them. Each has added something in their time here.

For this class, the story is still getting written, so once they hang up the ISU jersey, the we can look back.

It appears that TJ focused on what will work in his system and team. Some coaches only focus on stars, buzz or what is considered top talent without looking in how that player will fit in system. The players that are on that list play unselfish, so far, and work hard. The system and team makes the other players better.

What is so exciting with this group is the understanding that there is only one ball and 5 players make things go better. So far, ISU has had its periods of no scoring, but good D and communication have gotten them through. As the season wears on everyone, there is enough depth to keep the team moving. Picking the right transfers who get it has been a masterclass by the coaches.

 

[CycloneVet]

Considering what Darlingstone Dubar has turned into I’m surprised we didn’t keep him around that first year. Of course I don’t know what his opinion is on getting after it defensively so maybe he didn’t agree with TJ in that aspect

 

[NorthCyd]

Brockington
Kalsheuer
Keshon Gilbert
Curtis Jones
Jefferson
Tre King
Bob Jones
Jackson
Ward
Heise
Chatfield
Jaren Holmes
Jaz Kunz
Osunniyi
Grill
Enaruna
Paveletzke

I think this is a good as it stands now list just because how important Brockington and Kalsheur were in reviving the program, but if this years team does some of the things I hope it can I could see Keshon, Jones, or even Jefferson sitting at the top of this list. Maybe all 3 occupying the top 3 spots.

 

[Texbudman]

And the talent has been increasing as TJ's teams continue to win more. But what's more impressive is the buy-in all of these guys have. Everyone knows their role, plays within the team, and just wants to win.

TJ seems to fit his coaching to his players talents rather than make his players fit to his coaching. Some coaches only use “their system”. TJ’s first team struggled to score 50 points some games and still went to Sweet Sixteen. This team, while maybe not as strong defensively, is one of the most explosive offenses in the country. Two distinct style of teams with hopefully similar or better results. That is a great coach

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

I think this is a good as it stands now list just because how important Brockington and Kalsheur were in reviving the program, but if this years team does some of the things I hope it can I could see Keshon, Jones, or even Jefferson sitting at the top of this list. Maybe all 3 occupying the top 3 spots.

And we have gotten better transfers as a result of those that came before that laid the foundation.