*** Official #25 Baylor vs #3 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

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It was amazing how long it took the AP voters to give some respect that year. It was the classic "Kansas is not winning the Big XII? The conference is down this year," mentality.

If Kansas had won the regular season going away like ISU did, AND won the Conference tournament, they would have definitely been given the 1 seed.

Instead they gave the PAC two number 1 seeds. Neither of which made it past the first weekend.
That year was the ultimate fuckery. The Mich. St. loss certainly pissed me off, but I’ve always been more pissed about them not giving us the #1 seed. It was based solely on the name on the Jersey and nothing else. Had we met Mich. St in the final four or championship game, I don’t think Mich St. gets the calls they did in the elite 8.
 

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I've made this same post probably a dozen times, but I have no problem losing to Michigan State that year. Regardless of some questionable calls in that game, they had a great team all year and were a worthy champion. My problem is that game should have been a Final Four or National Championship game played on a neutral site, not a regional final played essentially on Michigan State's home floor.

An equally big screwjob to us not getting a #1 seed was that we not only got a #2 seed but a #2 seed in the region with the best team in the country as the #1 seed. The story is Gene Smith, who was on the selection committee, campaigned for us to be the #2 seed in the Midwest region so that we could play the first two rounds in Minneapolis. That team was so good, it didn't need help playing near home in the first two rounds, it needed to not have to play MSU in Detroit in the regional final. Alas.
 

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OR for Iowa State to adapt their OOC scheduling to improve their standing in the metric that is used. It's a relative easy fix for ISU if the metric is truly an issue.


Is it really easy? Jay Wright, I think last year, said his best coaching decision was never to schedule ISU in Hilton. The pre season made for TV events(that Squirrly Hurley wants more of) end up being various permutations of the "blue bloods" playing each other, pumping up their SOS but freezing out everyone else. Scheduling Minny, Wisky, Mizzou would be stronger than the 300 teams, but enough to move the needle(even assuming they would agree), compared to the loss of a home game ( for a home and home deal).
 

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Someone reported yesterday that JT was draining threes during warm-ups :bugle:
JT is a good shooter. It will be very interesting in how he develops under TJ and Kyle Green. They will demand that he uphold the defensive scheme at a high level. But with his size he could be a big scorer underneath (pun intended), and he also has the potential to be a reliable sniper from the outside.
 

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I'm still thinking about this play. It's so good.

Heise and Jefferson seem to have a special connection. Feels like those two are always finding each other for plays.
 
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JT is a good shooter. It will be very interesting in how he develops under TJ and Kyle Green. They will demand that he uphold the defensive scheme at a high level. But with his size he could be a big scorer underneath (pun intended), and he also has the potential to be a reliable sniper from the outside.
JT is very skilled, he needs to improve his overall athleticism to get on the floor. If he does, watch out.
 
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I've made this same post probably a dozen times, but I have no problem losing to Michigan State that year. Regardless of some questionable calls in that game, they had a great team all year and were a worthy champion. My problem is that game should have been a Final Four or National Championship game played on a neutral site, not a regional final played essentially on Michigan State's home floor.

An equally big screwjob to us not getting a #1 seed was that we not only got a #2 seed but a #2 seed in the region with the best team in the country as the #1 seed. The story is Gene Smith, who was on the selection committee, campaigned for us to be the #2 seed in the Midwest region so that we could play the first two rounds in Minneapolis. That team was so good, it didn't need help playing near home in the first two rounds, it needed to not have to play MSU in Detroit in the regional final. Alas.

I've read numerous times of the choice of Minneapolis vs. getting a 1 seed, I still don't know if that's true. But let's assume it is.

Interesting thing is, if 1999-2000 had the current tournament format, with all seed lines the same, Iowa State would've been placed in Minneapolis, then (most likely) in South Region (Austin) with Cincinnati shifted to Midwest (Auburn Hills).

Wikipedia tournament bracket for reference.

 

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I've never heard that Gene specifically campaigned against a #1 seed in favor of the Minneapolis #2 seed, just that he campaigned for that particular #2 seed (which put us in MSU's region). I don't think we were getting a #1 seed regardless.
 
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JT has time. He is only a freshman. He seems like a kid that will put in the work. It might take a year or two.
Just saying at that size you don’t suddenly become athletic. He is what he is which is a hard worker and good kid but unless you have blinders on you can easily tell meaningful minutes aren’t in his future minus the roster talent level just dropping 10 fold under TJ.
 

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Just saying at that size you don’t suddenly become athletic. He is what he is which is a hard worker and good kid but unless you have blinders on you can easily tell meaningful minutes aren’t in his future minus the roster talent level just dropping 10 fold under TJ.
I would agree if he wasn’t a 7’1” 18 year old. He doesn’t need to move like a smaller guy, he just needs to be able to use his length to offset lack of foot speed. He will figure it out with Green’s help.
 

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I would agree if he wasn’t a 7’1” 18 year old. He doesn’t need to move like a smaller guy, he just needs to be able to use his length to offset lack of foot speed. He will figure it out with Green’s help.

I thought in mop up time that he actually looked pretty good compared to what I was thinking.