I hate unbalanced schedules.. I know nothing can be done.
*** Official #23 BYU vs #10 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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I'm not a basketball guy, but surely he's not drawing up plays where guys make bad/lazy passes, don't catch the ball, loose their dribble, etc. I mean it's not ALL on the offensive coaches.
Keshon had an opportunity to either drive or shoot on the last play, instead he hesitated until he was covered and threw it to Momcilovic in the corner with 2 seconds left.
You’ve got to call the plays the team is capable of.
Yes, it’s easy to think the Big 12 is the whole world. I fall into that thinking often. But, for example, conf. teams have learned how to guard Jones. Undoubtedly, tournament teams will study this, but will they be able to consistently execute the strategy, as well as execute the strategies to contain Momcilovic, Gilbert, Lipsey,…? And even if they defend the Jones pick and roll well, will the help defense be late rotating and leave the roller open? Will someone sag too far off a shooter, allowing ISU to swing it? I’m NOT saying tournament games are a cakewalk just because the Big 12 has a lot of good coaches. But there’s a reason many games are back and forth towards the end. It’s just difficult to defend for 40:00 against a team you’ve likely not played. ISU’s offense should benefit from that reality, and its defense is more up to the task than many teams’
Just seems like this team has such a high variance in the NCAA Tournament. Potential is there to make a deep run. Could also easily see a Hampton/UAB type loss in the opener.
I get what you're saying, but it's not like these guys have a 500 play McDermott play book. At times we just fail to execute basic basketball skills.
I don't think this team lacks toughness like some have said, I'm just not sure they have have a high basketball IQ. And in pressure spots they get flustered rather than getting into a flow.
Yep. So not calling it already. And also total wins and losses straight up is a pretty crappy metric to determine what team is better when it's close... especially wheb there's no round robin. We didnt go to phogg last year, for example. Look at torvik or kenpom numbers. It's not even close.
They still play very good defense. I think lowers the chances of tripping up. But its the NCAA tourney and a team gets hot from 3 it can end suddenly
Hunter, Gabe, and Brockington weren’t too inferior to what we’ve been getting out of the Lipsey, CuJo, and Gilbert the last 14 games. Grill to Heise kind of a wash
I guess the current frontcourt is better than Jones, Kunc, Conditt.
But Milan is the primary difference
Yep. The guys you mentioned really battled. Heise as well aside from his slowing up on that steal and what should've been a roof raising dunk. We didn't play particularly well overall and still erased a 21 pt deficit in the 2nd half.
I'm looking at this one as a total mixed bag of positives and negatives.
Positives: KG, & CuJo looked a lot better. I don't think either is back to 100%, but I'm hopeful with another couple of weeks before the Tourney, they'll be close to getting their mojo completely back. Tamin, Milan, Heise and JJ all hit big shots in the 2nd half after a pretty dreadful 1st. Defense was elite until we were obviously gassed in OT. We forced a ton of turnovers and that will usually win the game for us, but not tonight. Our turnovers were also down from what they've been.
Negatives: We got destroyed on the glass, and our bigs were invisible and did pretty much nothing. That really killed us. Our offense was too tentative in the 1st half with guys standing around waiting for someone else to make a play. No one seemed to want to be aggressive. Obviously poor shooting overall didn't help us either. And even though as I mentioned above, we committed fewer turnovers, we also had a few that really killed us late in regulation and the OT's.
-Jefferson is capable of catching the ball and getting to the hoop.
-KG is capable of driving or popping a three.
And who knows what else was up for options from the sets. I think there's usually a safety valve of sorts.
Having a hard time remembering a stranger Iowa State team. We are just so variable from game to game.
The team has no identity on offense. Last year was "Tamin's team", he wasn't the leading scorer but he was running the show. This year he's not handling the ball and running the offense nearly as much, he's playing this off-the-ball / combo-guard role a lot more. Maybe it's because of the injuries he's dealing with. I've stopped trying to understand what we're doing on offense. Every shot we get just seems really difficult.
The defensive intensity in this game was great but we haven't seen that effort consistently this year.
The team has no identity on offense. Last year was "Tamin's team", he wasn't the leading scorer but he was running the show. This year he's not handling the ball and running the offense nearly as much, he's playing this off-the-ball / combo-guard role a lot more. Maybe it's because of the injuries he's dealing with. I've stopped trying to understand what we're doing on offense. Every shot we get just seems really difficult.
The defensive intensity in this game was great but we haven't seen that effort consistently this year.
Hmmmm. Do people not take ISU basketball serious......or do they listen to Mr. Blum, dig deep and become "vested" in this team?
Because you can't have it both ways. Can't say give, give, give to make TJ happy.....then say "take a walk" if they get a little too emotional after ISU stinks up the joint.
From the couch, leadership/communication imo will be what does this team in.
The turnovers seem to stem from the lack of or bad communication in crucial moments.
Only 11 last night total but at least three came at the worst time.
14/15 was the weirdest team in my memory. You never who would show up and they had a few legit NBA guys.
Ward/BRE/King weren't crazy good but did enough to take the pressure off of the guards on both ends.
I’d take last year’s team over this one. Ward and BRE were absolute dogs. They set the tone of a team that would play harder than everyone else.
This team is very millennial-like in that they just think everything will be handed to them.
This team is very millennial-like in that they just think everything will be handed to them.
The possibility of playing 4 games in 4 days in KC probably wouldn’t bode well for the NCAA tournament. Maybe I’m overthinking it
Disappointed but not terribly surprised. BYU was coming in on a heater (arguably finally coming up to the level that they should have been playing at with all they had returning), we're still trying to get back in sync and they are just a tough match up for us. I think we'd be viewing this team way differently if the two OT losses had become wins, so while this team may not have totally lived up to their potential, they're very close to doing so.
Only complaint I have on the season is that I think if we're going to go balls to the wall for 40 minutes in every game, we need to go 9 deep. I think it just caught up with us in terms of injuries and fatigue. Watson can clearly play at a high enough level, so I'd have to guess that it's just a matter of not needing that extra guy at the 4 spot based on what we want to do. I think we might be going 9 deep if Indrusaitis was ready as an extra guard would be easier to mix in.
At this point, if anyone needs to rest, then I'd support resting them. Best case scenario barring a tournament championship is probably a 3 seed (and maybe even then) and a 4 is the worst. This is a team that looks like they need to get healed up and rested. I'm still very positive for March Madness, because we have the horses, and anything can happen there.
Only complaint I have on the season is that I think if we're going to go balls to the wall for 40 minutes in every game, we need to go 9 deep. I think it just caught up with us in terms of injuries and fatigue. Watson can clearly play at a high enough level, so I'd have to guess that it's just a matter of not needing that extra guy at the 4 spot based on what we want to do. I think we might be going 9 deep if Indrusaitis was ready as an extra guard would be easier to mix in.
At this point, if anyone needs to rest, then I'd support resting them. Best case scenario barring a tournament championship is probably a 3 seed (and maybe even then) and a 4 is the worst. This is a team that looks like they need to get healed up and rested. I'm still very positive for March Madness, because we have the horses, and anything can happen there.
