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FinalFourCy

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Very one dimensional player.
Lots of things for him to work on.


Which is why it’ll be difficult to afford him imo

He’s basically been a 3&”D” guy

The deep pocket programs can afford to pay him as though he’s already an elite player- paying for upside in advance

Money ball would generally not do that. We’re looking to pay 3&D price for the guy that can be more

In the pros we’d trade him, but with that not an option, we’ll likely try to retain him and max out what we can pay him, hoping he takes a big step
 

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Tamin has been initiating the offense less and handling/distributing the ball less this year. You can see this in his assists numbers (4.9 in 31 minutes per game last year, 2.6 in 31 minutes per game this year). He's playing this combo-guard role that I don't think he's a great fit for. I imagine it's from the thumb injury hampering his ball-handling some.
 

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How many transfers do we think we’ll get (can afford)?

I hope three

IMO we know we need at least one guard, and if Rock isn’t ready, a big.

But two guards would be nice.

In Gilbert and Jones, we lose 36% of points, 29% of minutes played, 38% of FGA, 43% of our 3Ps, 37% of FTs, 23% of rebounds, 40% of assists

That’s a lot of backcourt usage/production to fill. If 4 years ago, I think this staff would land a couple of the most sought after transfers

If it’s just one transfer guard, and filling the rest with true freshmen and improvement from returnees, I’m not sure we improve (on offense).
 

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We are gonna need a shooter for sure. We will hopefully still have Milan, but when he was out this year, we saw how well the offense worked with only one threat from long-range (Jones).
 
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We are gonna need a shooter for sure. We will hopefully still have Milan, but when he was out this year, we saw how well the offense worked with only one threat from long-range (Jones).
True. If Jefferson is back I'd also encourage him to get 4-5 3s up per game. He's got a good shot and would extend the defense out and create space in the lane.
 

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We are gonna need a shooter for sure. We will hopefully still have Milan, but when he was out this year, we saw how well the offense worked with only one threat from long-range (Jones).
Have you guys watched any film on Batemon? He's got a shot like nothing on the team this year. Can come around the screen and catch a pass not facing the hoop, elevate and square up, and get a nice looking 3 up. Everyone on the team this year needs to be set, facing the hoop and not rushed to have a chance. Milan can come around a screen and get a decent shot up but it's not the same as what Batemon can do.

He's had a couple 0'fer games this year but who hasn't. If I'm thinking correctly he's still over 50% from 3 with high attempts.

Macari Moore broke a 40+ year old scoring record in Ann Arbor Michigan, so that kid can score.

Killyan will play a lot like Gilbert.

I gotta stop being so high on these freshman so I don't get disappointed. LoL
 

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Counting on a freshman to come in and be a shot-maker I think is optimistic. Hopefully he does that but I'd want an older shooter on the roster too. Can't have too many shooters.
 

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Counting on a freshman to come in and be a shot-maker I think is optimistic. Hopefully he does that but I'd want an older shooter on the roster too. Can't have too many shooters.
Older shooters are fools gold. They take lots money, the mid major guys get accustomed to weak defenses so it takes half a year or more for them to come around. And depending how they play, they are probably more prone to using us as a stepping stone and moving on to higher paying schools. I would like to think freshman are more apt to stay committed, longer.

I could be way off base here but the freshman philosophy seemed to work for the blue bloods back in the day but now those schools are chasing the older shooters and look where that's getting them now. Plus them chasing the older guys opens the door for us to get the better freshman, but you gotta play those guys or else that avenue will dry up.

Older bigs out of mid majors is where the portal will come in handy.
 

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Older shooters are fools gold. They take lots money, the mid major guys get accustomed to weak defenses so it takes half a year or more for them to come around. And depending how they play, they are probably more prone to using us as a stepping stone and moving on to higher paying schools. I would like to think freshman are more apt to stay committed, longer.

I could be way off base here but the freshman philosophy seemed to work for the blue bloods back in the day but now those schools are chasing the older shooters and look where that's getting them now. Plus them chasing the older guys opens the door for us to get the better freshman, but you gotta play those guys or else that avenue will dry up.

Older bigs out of mid majors is where the portal will come in handy.

Disagree

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Midmajor guys have worked out for us. The market will always have missed price players in which there is some doubt on what occurs when they step up

Freshman are a complete crapshoot, but have their place as filling out the roster as cheap lotto tickets. If you hit, they’re just as likely to use you as a stepping stone as transfers
 

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Way up there
Disagree

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Midmajor guys have worked out for us. The market will always have missed price players in which there is some doubt on what occurs when they step up

Freshman are a complete crapshoot, but have their place as filling out the roster as cheap lotto tickets. If you hit, they’re just as likely to use you as a stepping stone as transfers
During our game when they were talking about the SEC and Fran mentioned 75% of the starters in that league are seniors. It's no coincidence that league is as strong as it is.
 

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Disagree

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Midmajor guys have worked out for us. The market will always have missed price players in which there is some doubt on what occurs when they step up

Freshman are a complete crapshoot, but have their place as filling out the roster as cheap lotto tickets. If you hit, they’re just as likely to use you as a stepping stone as transfers
Why recruit top 100 players out of high school and just park them on the bench? I get TJ needs guys who can do the job on the defensive end and that doesn't come quickly for most freshmen. But this might be the best group of shooters to come in together in a class ever and we are seriously going to just banish them to the land of Indrusaitis?
 
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Disagree

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Midmajor guys have worked out for us. The market will always have missed price players in which there is some doubt on what occurs when they step up

Freshman are a complete crapshoot, but have their place as filling out the roster as cheap lotto tickets. If you hit, they’re just as likely to use you as a stepping stone as transfers

TJ is on the record that he wants a mix of freshmen and transfers.

I am on team Batemon as much as anyone. He looks to me like a Buddy Hield type volume shooter (but you're ok with that because dude can knock them down).

That said you're absolutely right. Freshman are never a "safe bet". We'll all find out next year won't we.
 

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TJ is on the record that he wants a mix of freshmen and transfers.

I am on team Batemon as much as anyone. He looks to me like a Buddy Hield type volume shooter (but you're ok with that because dude can knock them down).

That said you're absolutely right. Freshman are never a "safe bet". We'll all find out next year won't we.
Of course he does.

Freshmen are cheap, and often don’t expect as much in terms of role. We don’t have the budget or volume to fill 13+ spots with good transfers

After we nearly exhaust our budget on transfers and returning guys, we need cheap upside via high school guys, albeit at a lower hit rate. I suspect we’ll see 4-5 most years, maybe more if we’re able to go to 15 scholarships
 

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Not exactly sure.
Of course he does.

Freshmen are cheap, and often don’t expect as much in terms of role. We don’t have the budget or volume to fill 13+ spots with good transfers

We need cheap upside via high school guys, albeit at a lower hit rate. I suspect we’ll see 4-5 most years, maybe more if we’re able to go to 15 scholarships
Having a decent core of HS kids also gives you a solid 3-4 players and then just need to pick up 2-3 transfers per year and hold your culture.
 

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Why recruit top 100 players out of high school and just park them on the bench? I get TJ needs guys who can do the job on the defensive end and that doesn't come quickly for most freshmen. But this might be the best group of shooters to come in together in a class ever and we are seriously going to just banish them to the land of Indrusaitis?

I agree that it would help us actualize some of the high school recruit upside if we used more investment minutes

But this high school group isn’t that good at shooting

Batemon is good, Toure improving

But Mitchell and Pleta haven’t been good