KenPom uses "Experience" to signify how old a team is. Kansas is oldest.
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I think that’s optimistic
If a high school guy doesn’t emerge in a year or two, staying seems unlikely. If they have a promising year, we may not be able to afford him.
By nature of the crapshoot aspect of high school recruiting, you need to take in many each year.
I’m not expecting more than an average of one to stay 3 or 4 years
It would be neat to find actual age as well. BYU may not have "Experience", but they are probably one of the oldest teams.
Enough to disagree with “this might be the best group of shooters to come in together in a class ever”
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The free year of eligibility given to players that were on rosters during the 2021 season has caused a bit of problem with the way I used to measure experience. Previously, I would simply use the class on each team’s roster to measure each player’s experience and then minutes weight that for the current roster’s average experience. This wasn’t without its pitfalls. Most schools listed a player’s eligibility class on their rosters, but some (notably Notre Dame) listed a player’s academic class.Unfortunately, the pandemic has introduced another methodology variant. Some teams during the 2022 season (Arizona, Dayton, and Tulane are the obvious ones, but there are many others) decided to freeze the academic class of players that were on the roster during the 2021 season. Others…did not do this.
So a solution is needed. And that solution is to measure a player’s experience by minutes played in previous seasons. I have more or less scaled this new measure to the previous measure. The new measure can be thought of as average number of full D-1 seasons played by the current roster, weighted by minutes played.
It’s not perfect. For instance, teams that are new to D-1 will have nearly zero experience which isn’t exactly helpful. But given the increasing divergence in methodology by the schools, it’s a better solution that basing the metric off of a player’s listed class.
And if you have one a year to stick around and be contributors 3 or 4 years you have 3 to 4 freshmen to have that core group. We have Tamin and mom right now, we would have just needed one more to get to where I was saying
Xzavion is averaging 35. Read that again. Averaging 35. Pleta is averaging 20. Not sure where you're getting that they haven't been good. Now maybe their 3p% isn't the best but that's not the reason they got recruited.
If you’re saying at best one 4 year guy per year, I agree.
I wouldn’t say that’s using high school guys for much in terms of continuity (over transfers), but we’ll see
I don’t mind us taking some high school guys and see which ones pan out. If they don’t it’s not like we can’t replace them immediately in the portal
Mitchell has improved his shot (and ball-handling) quite a bit…
Xzavion looks like a younger, better ball handling JJeff in those videos. Not super flashy but figures out how to score at a high clip.
People are fooling themselves if they don't think one (and possibly two) freshman are in our 8 man rotation next year.
I fully understand recruiting rankings arent everything, but Jamarion Batemon is a similar recruit to Momcilovic, Wigginton, THT, Tyrese Hunter, Matt Thomas. True freshman that had INSTANT impact. He is the real deal.
I fully understand recruiting rankings arent everything, but Jamarion Batemon is a similar recruit to Momcilovic, Wigginton, THT, Tyrese Hunter, Matt Thomas. True freshman that had INSTANT impact. He is the real deal.
Hard to say that this early on. It will all come down to portal season. If TJ doesn't go after more than one guard/ wing, then yes, multiple freshmen will be logging minutes next year more likely than not.
I thought one of the UNI/Cyclone types on here (@1UNI2ISU was this you?) said Fish was on his way to Cedar Falls when J'Vonne Hadley bailed, opening up a scholarship, and TJ, lacking any better options late in the transfer period and wanting to use that last scholarship, brought Fish back at the last second.
He has improved from having a bad shot…to a not good shot
Fair to be optimistic, but the statement was one of the best shooting classes ever. That’s not true. Only Batemon is a plus shooter
Maybe it was meant scorers? Batemon, Toure, and Moore can all get down hill to the bucket. Mitchell is crafty as a 6’6” power forward, and Pleta can drive for his height
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Batemon replaces one of Keshon/Curtis and you are going big game hunting for the best transfer guard possible.
In a perfect world, Curtis gets one more year. Batemon falls in line as one of those elite freshman. And you land one absolute stud transfer.
Lipsey
Jones
Momcilovic
Jefferson
Jackson
Heise
Batemon
Elite transfer
PG Lipsey
SG Rohde
SF Momcilovic
PF Jefferson
C Jackson
6 Heise
7 Pleta
8 Toure
9 Bateman
10 Transfer Big
11 Moore -RS
12 Mitchell-RS
SG Rohde
SF Momcilovic
PF Jefferson
C Jackson
6 Heise
7 Pleta
8 Toure
9 Bateman
10 Transfer Big
11 Moore -RS
12 Mitchell-RS
Rohde looks decent, steady. But I'm not sure he will be able to be as impactful as Gilbert and Jones. Maybe in our system he may flourish more. I would imagine coming out of Virginia he knows how to play some defense. Looking at the starting lineup above, not the most athletic. Doesn't mean that can't win a lot of games, but that could be a weakness.
