Nojus Indrusaitis Enters the Transfer Portal

[NoCreativity]

That's not entitlement, buddy. That's a kid recognizing that he has a short window of time where he can live his dream.

I think you guys are misunderstanding my post. The post I responded to literally said he'd be pissed if he didn't play as a freshman because it's wasting a whole year.

I'm sorry but that's the definition of entitlement, There are only so many minutes, innings, downs, whatever else available in collegiate sports, not everyone gets to participate.

 

[JustHereForTheZipline]

I think you guys are misunderstanding my post. The post I responded to literally said he'd be pissed if he didn't play as a freshman because it's wasting a whole year.

I'm sorry but that's the definition of entitlement, There are only so many minutes, innings, downs, whatever else available in collegiate sports, not everyone gets to participate.

There's nothing wrong with being a 4-star recruit who plays on the Lithuanian national team and believing you're good enough to be playing.

Entitled is sulking on the bench. Or the people who essentially sit out in protest until their outrageous NIL demands are met.

This is no different from an adult working at a job, seeing their leadership go in a different direction for a promotion, and deciding that it's a sign that their talents are better aligned elsewhere.

I'd never want to see a college athlete acting with an overinflated ego. But they don't owe anyone unending commitment. They should act like professionals, never burn bridges, and make decisions that will benefit them long-term.

No one is going to look back on this when they're 80 and say "well, I sat on the bench and cheered one team on when I know I could have contributed somewhere else...but at least the fans on the message board were happy.

(And, were the fans happy? It goes both ways- if fans expect players to be 100% committed, no matter what, they should do the same. Look at the abuse some of these players have to take from their own fan bases. Some of these expectations are out of control.)

 

[NWICY]

Naz wasn’t ready, Matt got off to a slow start but started a lot of games, Monte and Georges did very well. Georges was starting a third of the way into the year and drug Withey from KU all over the place drilling 3s. 3 out of 4 did not have bad freshman years

The 1st 2 yrs of his career Matt T was the CF whipping boy.

 

[Cyclones125]

I think you guys are misunderstanding my post. The post I responded to literally said he'd be pissed if he didn't play as a freshman because it's wasting a whole year.

I'm sorry but that's the definition of entitlement, There are only so many minutes, innings, downs, whatever else available in collegiate sports, not everyone gets to participate.

I meant it for these ISU guys, especially Nojus, who all could get solid minutes at a non-P5 school. Yes, if you're just an above-average HS player going to a D3 school when you don't have the talent to be recruited elsewhere, then it would be entitlement to expect PT.

 

[CycloneVet]

The 1st 2 yrs of his career Matt T was the CF whipping boy.

That doesn’t mean anything. There have been a lot of whipping boys

 

[Gunnerclone]

I said plus UConn. Outside of UConn, no they aren’t a power conference.

Creighton? Nova?

 

[JustHereForTheZipline]

Another thing worth pointing out...these guys have very few guarantees.

Look at the guys who made decisions based on coaches and then the coach decides to leave the next year.

Or their after-college plans. People like to give them a hard time for not being "real" students, but plenty of them are. Conditt was convinced to come to ISU because he was into the engineering program. No one should ever transfer because a degree program at another school is interesting?

Iowa's football program was in hot water for poor treatment of Black athletes. Whether a person believes it or not, surely we can all admit that any program could have a similar issue- something toxic that makes it a miserable experience, that they couldn't have seen before landing on campus.

the NCAA used to control *everything* in these kids' lives, while people like Bill Self got to break the rules with no consequence (and get rich doing it). Reforms started when athletes began speaking out about how they went to bed hungry sometimes, but the NCAA prevented them from earning money or accepting help.

Yes, this has changed so much about college athletics. But the balance of power was so so so far from fair that I don't understand how people see the shift so negatively.

 

[bozclone]

The timing of the transfer portal doesn’t help these HS recruits. They commit to a program and then the roster changes before they get on campus. Adding Heise really hurt Nojus’s chances of seeing significant minutes.

 

[c.y.c.l.o.n.e.s]

Creighton has been to 1 elite 8 in the last 80 years
Marquette has 1 elite 8 in the last 20 years
Nova is lost in the woods and hasn’t made the tourny in 3 seasons
Xavier is fair but has never been to a final 4
St. John’s hasn’t made to the sweet 16 this century.

Like I said right now it’s just UConn’s conference. Maybe nova finds their way back but right now they are rudderless without Wright

With the new revenue agreement they could soon become THE power conference in basketball since the member schools won’t have to allocate most of their money to football.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

With the new revenue agreement they could soon become THE power conference in basketball since the member schools won’t have to allocate most of their money to football.

The big east schools makes less then 7 million a year for media rights. Most of these schools are very small privates without large student bodies or donor bases.

UConn again is the only one with any real power. Georgetown could flex if it wanted but it’s been so bad for so long it will take a lot to get the fans motivated

 

[JK4ISU]

I don’t blame Nojus for leaving and I wish him well. I don’t know whether it is good or bad, but it seems like, if you are not in the rotation for the first conference game, you might as well start shopping for a new team.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Agree. Some on here have made excellent points about Tamin and Milan being the only HS recruit that has stayed or panned out. I’m not even going to get excited about or follow high school basketball recruiting anymore. TJ has had some great classes, but everything has become a joke. I was really excited about Nojus and this sucks. Maybe this years class will change that for me though.

Prohms last few classes were all a joke. At least that's what we all thought. TJ’s while ranked higher, have not yielded wildly better results.

 

[AllInForISU]

Prohms last few classes were all a joke. At least that's what we all thought. TJ’s while ranked higher, have not yielded wildly better results.

The main difference here is TJ is recruiting HS, and players from other colleges to come to ISU, and his own team to stay. Prohm just had to recruit HS players. It’s honestly apples to oranges. You have to look at overall talent brought in, not just how HS players pan out, because in this day and age, odds are, the freshman out of HS aren’t going to work at P5

 

[NENick]

Sorry, but I hate this attitude.

That's not entitlement, buddy. That's a kid recognizing that he has a short window of time where he can live his dream.

Look at people who have left for smaller programs. Jelani Hamilton, for instance. Entitled would be him pouting publicly about not getting playing time.

Instead, he's maintained friendships with his former teammates and chose to play in front of a tiny crowd at a program no one cares about because he loves to play....and then gets criticized for not being loyal or being entitled.

Speaking of Jelani Hamilton, maybe not this year, but after 25-26 season he'll have 2 years left. Why not come back?

 

[Dgilbertson]

Matt Thomas, Niang, Monte Morris, Naz Long all had bad freshman years and all improved each year and made it to the NBA.

Niang averaged 12.1ppg, shot 39% from 3, started 23 games and was awarded Big 12 All-Rookie Team as a Freshman.

 

[NWICY]

That doesn’t mean anything. There have been a lot of whipping boys

It basically means the general fan on CF, who couldn't outcoach a 1a coach, is a pretty poor person to listen to when it comes to roster evaluation. Including me or you dumb ass.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Matt Thomas, Niang, Monte Morris, Naz Long all had bad freshman years and all improved each year and made it to the NBA.

Monte Morris became impossible to keep off the floor as the season progressed. Good things just happened when he was in the game.

28 mpg, 17 starts, 40.6% 3pt, 3.7 assists, 1.3 steals, and 6.8 pts per game.

 

[Dgilbertson]

It basically means the general fan on CF, who couldn't outcoach a 1a coach, is a pretty poor person to listen to when it comes to roster evaluation. Including me or you dumb ass.

Thomas’s Fr year was a lot like the start of the season for Heise. Heard how solid he was coaches obviously believed in him, but it just wasn’t clicking.

Actually surprised that his 3pt percentage wasn’t as low as I thought.

 

[swiacy]

Under the current rules, P5 teams’ rotations consist of grown men not immature physically freshmen. If my son wasn’t built like Cooper Flagg or Tamin Lipsey coming out of HS, I’d recommend going the Juco or non P4 route to get PT and mature physically. Heise and Jones are examples. In addition, he would have potential to get paid well for this process.

 

[swiacy]

I never understood why Rock came in early and lost a year while he filled out his body. Maybe TJ is ahead of the game and his strategy is bringing in highly rated HS recruits, treating them well while here and then bringing them back in a couple of years later after they get experience and become mature men. An example would be Gilbert of this strategy. For other CF old timers, it was always my understanding that Duane Crutchfield and Tinsley were placed in Jucos by ISU coaches and told a scholly was waiting for them. Bill Snyder used that strategy at KSt to build his program.