You still get five years to play four, so the year isn't "lost." But on TJ's side of the equation, it does tie up a roster spot.
Nojus Indrusaitis Enters the Transfer Portal
- Thread starter LLCoolCY
- Start date
Creighton has a lot of NIL. I think some of those Big East privates have enough NIL to compete. There are a lot of other power conference schools getting a lot due to football, but are also going to dump most of it into football.
I get things are changing, but as a reminder since the last time the Big 10 won a title every other league has had multiple teams win titles, including UConn and Nova combine for 7. It’s reasonable to think 4-6 teams in an 11 team league consistently get in the dance with a couple being top 5 seeds. That’s absolutely a power conference.
As much as you probably don't want to hear it but schools have just as short of a fuse as the players now. The days of a 2-3 year project are pretty much over. If you don't come in and contribute as a freshman you probably won't as a sophomore either because the staff is going to recruit over you.
The talent pool now is probably 3 times deeper than it was when you played too... It's not the apples to apples comparison you think it is.
Um, this year is literally the first year Washington State wasn’t considered P4 in basketball. They were literally in the dance as a 7 seed last season as a member of the PAC12, and no it wasn’t a lesser conference in the NIL era. Our #1 portal target (Cluff) played on that team, dropped down this past season, and will “elevate” himself next season by getting a monster pay day. The “down and then back up” model is common.
I do think the gap between P5 and the mid majors has gotten wider with NIL but I also think the reason the tourney has been a dud the last couple years is because the NET rankings favor crap P5 schools instead of the pesky mid majors.
I mostly agree with you, however we kept Damarion around for 3 years. He never seemed to get a whole lot better.
No kidding. If he’d stayed in HS another year he’d still 5 to play 4.
TJ seems very comfortable with small rotations so it doesn't seem to be an issue for him.
There's
There's something to be said, from JT's POV about getting into a program early to get the development process going though. Not a lot of big man specialists at the South Dakota high school level. A skilled big man graduating college at 20 years old is going to get a lot of attention if he performs.
I was looking back at TJ's high school recruiting using 247's national composite rankings and their freshman production.
2021: Tyrese Hunter #37 ranking, played 32 minutes as a freshman, very productive.
2022: Watson, Lipsey, & King all ranking outside the top 150. Lipsey played 30 minutes a game and was very productive, as has been well documented his recruiting ranking was skewed by an injury in high school.
2023: Momcilovic #40 ranking, played 30 minutes a game and was very productive. Biliew #12 ranking and wasn't productive. Rock #83 ranking, but reclassified and redshirted. Fish and Hamilton ranked outside the top 150.
2024: Indrusaitis #74 ranking, not productive as a freshman. Pierce outside top 150 and left before the season.
So in summary they have gotten a lot of production out of every top 50 guy except Biliew. Everyone outside the top 50 rankings hasn't contributed as a freshman and ultimately transferred, which isn't uncommon in the current college basketball environment. For next year Batemon is ranked #53 and the others are outside the top 100. Pleta can probably be considered more of a transfer given his age and professional experience.
2021: Tyrese Hunter #37 ranking, played 32 minutes as a freshman, very productive.
2022: Watson, Lipsey, & King all ranking outside the top 150. Lipsey played 30 minutes a game and was very productive, as has been well documented his recruiting ranking was skewed by an injury in high school.
2023: Momcilovic #40 ranking, played 30 minutes a game and was very productive. Biliew #12 ranking and wasn't productive. Rock #83 ranking, but reclassified and redshirted. Fish and Hamilton ranked outside the top 150.
2024: Indrusaitis #74 ranking, not productive as a freshman. Pierce outside top 150 and left before the season.
So in summary they have gotten a lot of production out of every top 50 guy except Biliew. Everyone outside the top 50 rankings hasn't contributed as a freshman and ultimately transferred, which isn't uncommon in the current college basketball environment. For next year Batemon is ranked #53 and the others are outside the top 100. Pleta can probably be considered more of a transfer given his age and professional experience.
I think Toure has a lot of reasons to believe he'd be underranked. Never played AAU being from France prior to this year and pretty much immediately stepped into a big role at Brewster. I know Nojus also played there but I think Toure's athletic traits and specifically his on-ball defense give him a much better shot to play early.
Yeah a case can be made that it will be more like a Lipsey situation, where the ranking doesn't really tell the story.
We can sit here and moan and complain about freshman not playing or we can play them then complain about how they are not ready to play meaningful minutes at this level. Either way the goal is to put your best players on the floor and win games and unfortunately in this era of the transfer portal most programs competing for conference championships and post season bids don't have the luxury of playing kids that aren't as good as other guys on your roster right now when everyone can basically re-load/rebuild through the portal in 1 offseason now. I don't blame the staff, you still need to recruit HS kids and hope you hit on 1 or 2 in a class that can help right away but the days of seeing a kid stick it out for 4 years if they don't play right away are probably a thing of the past.
I'm interested to see where our guys end up transfering to because I'm guessing most wind up at a mid-major or small school and not another power conference team other than maybe Jackson and possibly Watson. Even if Jackson and Watson end up at another power conference school I don't expect either to all the sudden have significantly bigger roles than they had at ISU. Nojus, Rock, and Fish all will likely have to go to a mid-major or smaller in order to get meaningful minutes next season.
I'm interested to see where our guys end up transfering to because I'm guessing most wind up at a mid-major or small school and not another power conference team other than maybe Jackson and possibly Watson. Even if Jackson and Watson end up at another power conference school I don't expect either to all the sudden have significantly bigger roles than they had at ISU. Nojus, Rock, and Fish all will likely have to go to a mid-major or smaller in order to get meaningful minutes next season.
Monte's turnover numbers were wild, unbelievable for a point guard who averaged almost 34 minutes per game on fast-paced teams.
- He had two turnovers or less in 86% of his games played
- He had zero turnovers in 33% of his games played
- The most turnovers he ever had in a game was 4
- He had a stretch of eight straight games with no turnovers, as a true freshman
The upsets in the last 4 Tourneys that I listed in my earlier post would seem to show otherwise with regards to talent gap in the NIL era. Other than this Tourney, the last 4 since NIL have featured major upsets where much lower seeds took down a big dog. And that was for 4 Tourneys straight leading to this year's which has been largely chalky.
I can't remember any Tournament stretch in the past where those types of upsets occurred that often in consecutive years. 1's, 2's & 3's losing used to be incredibly rare. Now it happens fairly often. That would seem to indicate more parity across all of college hoops.
And a bonus to more 15's beating 2's for ISU fans is that hopefully we'll never have to see the clip of the Hampton coach celebrating after that loss ever again!
