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[FriendlySpartan]

So you think Campbell is lying when he states that the vast majority of P4 athletics administrators (including from the SEC and B10) agree with media rights pooling?

The only administrators against it are the ESPN and Fox puppets, Sankey and Pettit, and some dumb eff minions of them.

LOL at your sad comment, you are in B10 fan boy denial mode.

Not sure what I’m in denial of, the fact that you think an oil billionaire is your savior on this is just weird. I’m sure a bunch of P4 admins are all for this, if there was a single one against it from the either the Big12 or ACC against it they should be fired asap.

I just think like many of your other proposals you bring up this is going no where. First it was all about private equity forming its own league, then it was about congress getting involved, then it was a presidential committee. This guy is just your new savior of the week which again he’s an oil billionaire! They are obv known for getting deals done that benefit everyone lol

 

[cykadelic2]

Not sure what I’m in denial of, the fact that you think an oil billionaire is your savior on this is just weird. I’m sure a bunch of P4 admins are all for this, if there was a single one against it from the either the Big12 or ACC against it they should be fired asap.

I just think like many of your other proposals you bring up this is going no where. First it was all about private equity forming its own league, then it was about congress getting involved, then it was a presidential committee. This guy is just your new savior of the week which again he’s an oil billionaire! They are obv known for getting deals done that benefit everyone lol

I have stated multiple times before that PE is not required for media rights pooling and rational realignment.

And Congress is getting involved as indicated here. If/When House gets codified, the next order of business will be modifying or eliminating the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act which will enable media rights pooling. That initiative is being led by Campbell on Trump's behalf.

And the Presidential Committee is now only Campbell. Nick Saban had to drop out because of a clear conflict of interest with his current employer, ESPN/SEC, who are obviously against media rights pooling.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I have stated multiple times before that PE is not required for media rights pooling and rational realignment.

And Congress is getting involved as indicated here. If/When House gets codified, the next order of business will be modifying or eliminating the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act which will enable media rights pooling. That initiative is being led by Campbell on Trump's behalf.

And the Presidential Committee is now only Campbell. Nick Saban had to drop out because of a clear conflict of interest with his current employer, ESPN/SEC, who are obviously against media rights pooling.

This isn’t getting Congress involved in the way you were talking about at all. If anything what they are doing makes it even more unlikely that the oil billionaire was effective.

Also while PE isn’t required for aggregation you were on one talking about the PE proposal that would do just that repeatedly.

Puppets

 

[cykadelic2]

This isn’t getting Congress involved in the way you were talking about at all. If anything what they are doing makes it even more unlikely that the oil billionaire was effective.

Also while PE isn’t required for aggregation you were on one talking about the PE proposal that would do just that repeatedly.

Modifying the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act and having Federal intervention to prevent additional relegation/destruction of existing P4 schools (orchestrated by ESPN/SEC and Fox/B10) go hand in hand.

Yes, the original proposals for media rights pooling and rational realignment (e.g. Project Rudy) were in conjunction with PE back initiatives. And both can be accomplished without PE. PE IMO should only be involved on an individual school basis based on their financial condition. For example, B10 schools Rutgers and UCLA are both badly in need of PE infusion if they can't get sufficient bailout funding from other sources (student fees, state taxpayers, gambling taxes, etc.)

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Modifying the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act and having Federal intervention to prevent additional relegation/destruction of existing P4 schools (orchestrated by ESPN/SEC and Fox/B10) go hand in hand.

Yes, the original proposals for media rights pooling and rational realignment (e.g. Project Rudy) were in conjunction with PE back initiatives. And both can be accomplished without PE. PE IMO should only be involved on an individual school basis based on their financial condition. For example, B10 schools Rutgers and UCLA are both badly in need of PE infusion if they can't get sufficient bailout funding from other sources (student fees, state taxpayers, gambling taxes, etc.)

No one is trying to relegate current P4 schools. That’s my point, this act of Congress does nothing related to sharing media rights or in any way move the ball forward on that front.

We kinda agree on PE but I also just don’t think any school should ever get in bed with PE

 

[cykadelic2]

No one is trying to relegate current P4 schools. That’s my point, this act of Congress does nothing related to sharing media rights or in any way move the ball forward on that front.

The wheels are in motion for additional consolidation of brands by ESPN/Fox along with relegation. They will more so come to fruition as existing TV deals expire at the end of the decade. And obviously steps are now being taken to prevent it by Campbell and others.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The wheels are in motion for additional consolidation of brands by ESPN/Fox along with relegation. They will more so come to fruition as existing TV deals expire at the end of the decade. And obviously steps are now being taken to prevent it by Campbell and others.

Just like the wheels were in motion when you promised ESPN would opt out of the ACC this year bringin about the rapture?

Puppets

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Again, Wazzu and Oregon State didn't get relegated, they got right-sized for the actual year we're living in and there are probably a half dozen other schools in the same boat (Wake Forest, Duke, Boston College, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Houston) that don't belong playing the top level of football. This also applies to a few Big Ten/SEC schools but we know they're safe,

Just because Wazzu and Oregon State got to tag along with the PAC because we didn't have air travel when they were added to that league doesn't mean they get stay there forever. They have WAY more in common with Colorado State, Utah State and the Cal States than they ever did with USC, UCLA, UW or UO.

The best solution is to separate football entirely and go to regional all sports conferences but there is absolutely zero chance that happens just as aggregation isn't going to happen. The only thing we will see is unequal rev share within leagues. All House did was push the payments to players back under the table.

 

[cykadelic2]

Just like the wheels were in motion when you promised ESPN would opt out of the ACC this year bringin about the rapture?

Yeah, that didn't happen for multiple reasons (legal, payouts, ACCN obligations) but they did facilitate the movement of the ACC disintegration clock from 2036 to 2031 when the ACC exit fees significantly reduce as part of the ACC/FSU/Clemson Settlement.

And you're being quite the drama queen in suggesting that I "promised" the ESPN opt out.

 

[cykadelic2]

Again, Wazzu and Oregon State didn't get relegated, they got right-sized for the actual year we're living in and there are probably a half dozen other schools in the same boat (Wake Forest, Duke, Boston College, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Houston) that don't belong playing the top level of football. This also applies to a few Big Ten/SEC schools but we know they're safe,

Just because Wazzu and Oregon State got to tag along with the PAC because we didn't have air travel when they were added to that league doesn't mean they get stay there forever. They have WAY more in common with Colorado State, Utah State and the Cal States than they ever did with USC, UCLA, UW or UO.

They didn't get "right-sized". They were collateral damage from Fox's orchestrated destruction of the PAC so that Fox could add a couple of high-profile matchups to their B10 inventory and cut out 8 other PAC schools they no longer wanted to fully fund. The 4 corner schools and Calford were fortunate enough to get bailed out by the B12/ACC/ESPN.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

They didn't get "right-sized". They were collateral damage from Fox's orchestrated destruction of the PAC so that Fox could add a couple of high-profile matchups to their B10 inventory and cut out 8 other PAC schools they no longer wanted to fully fund. The 4 corner schools and Calford were fortunate enough to get bailed out by the B12/ACC/ESPN.

So what you're saying is 10 of the 12 PAC schools had value to a TV rights partner. We're literally saying the same thing.

 

[cyfan92]

Love the provisions to maintain 16 varsity sports and restricting the use of student fees to fund athletic departments!

Although it means the volleyball team is driving on a bus going forward, I hope this pushes non-revenue sports back to a regional system! Our non-revenue teams should play every school in our geographic region, versus the same schools that men's basketball and football play.

The biggest obstacles I see for ISU is how much do we "invest" in wrestling and women's basketball. Those don't move the needle but have very passionate followings

 

[VeloClone]

"The head coach acknowledges Arizona State, BYU, Baylor and several more teams in their league are in good shape for 2025."

Someone missing here...

"With Gilligan, the skipper too, the millionaire, and his wife, the movie star and the rest..."

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Love the provisions to maintain 16 varsity sports and restricting the use of student fees to fund athletic departments!

Although it means the volleyball team is driving on a bus going forward, I hope this pushes non-revenue sports back to a regional system! Our non-revenue teams should play every school in our geographic region, versus the same schools that men's basketball and football play.

The biggest obstacles I see for ISU is how much do we "invest" in wrestling and women's basketball. Those don't move the needle but have very passionate followings

It'll be up to the people with the passion to put their money where their mouth is.

 

[cykadelic2]

So what you're saying is 10 of the 12 PAC schools had value to a TV rights partner. We're literally saying the same thing.

No, Fox's intentions were to cut costs at their discretion and to their sole benefit. PAC destruction was the direct result of the ESPN/Fox stranglehold on CFB and their ability to manipulate the sport to their benefit.

The current values of existing CFB TV contracts is $3B and as cited by multiple outlets, that value would be doubled with media rights pooling and in conjunction with rational realignment, the PAC would be revived with OSU/WSU included.

From USA Today article re' Campbell: "Currently, the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and Big 12 earn an estimated $3 billion combined annually from media rights. But a high-placed industry official told USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity due to the nature of the subject that a single-payer system (pooled rights) could double the current value of the combined power conference deals."

Previously posted CBS article:

Is college football undervalued? America's second-most popular game still leaving billions on the table

Ripe for venture capitalists and mega streaming deals down the line, college football's bottom line is getting astronomical

www.cbssports.com

 

[CascadeClone]

Again, Wazzu and Oregon State didn't get relegated, they got right-sized for the actual year we're living in and there are probably a half dozen other schools in the same boat (Wake Forest, Duke, Boston College, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Houston) that don't belong playing the top level of football. This also applies to a few Big Ten/SEC schools but we know they're safe,

To-maa-to, to-mah-to. They got their revenue cut in half(?).

The key takeaway is: anyone not in the top 20-25 of blue blood brands is absolutely vulnerable.

Could have happened to ISU a couple of times in the past. Still could if things shake out wrong. Say the ACC gets a big contract and grabs BYU, Tech, the 4 corners or somesuch at ESPN's bequest and turns into a 24 team conference with two 12 team divisions. Suddenly the Big12 is 10 teams and the brands are ISU, KSU, OSU, and KU. That's the BigEast but with football and smaller TV markets.

 

[MountainManHawk]

 

[AlaCyclone]

To-maa-to, to-mah-to. They got their revenue cut in half(?).

The key takeaway is: anyone not in the top 20-25 of blue blood brands is absolutely vulnerable.

Could have happened to ISU a couple of times in the past. Still could if things shake out wrong. Say the ACC gets a big contract and grabs BYU, Tech, the 4 corners or somesuch at ESPN's bequest and turns into a 24 team conference with two 12 team divisions. Suddenly the Big12 is 10 teams and the brands are ISU, KSU, OSU, and KU. That's the BigEast but with football and smaller TV markets.

Let's stick to our Roots = Big 4!

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Yeah, that didn't happen for multiple reasons (legal, payouts, ACCN obligations) but they did facilitate the movement of the ACC disintegration clock from 2036 to 2031 when the ACC exit fees significantly reduce as part of the ACC/FSU/Clemson Settlement.

And you're being quite the drama queen in suggesting that I "promised" the ESPN opt out.

No drama you were pretty adamant it was happening as you were all in on the conspiracy theories. Again just like with project Rudy, or the presidential commission, or Congress, you are just repeatedly wrong on this stuff and guess what, the oil billionaire isn’t saving anyone. No one will even return his calls.

I totally agree with the the concept of bidding out all rights making more money but the P2 are never giving up that monetary advantage even if it would be for the better of the overall sport

Edit* puppets

 

[1UNI2ISU]

No, Fox's intentions were to cut costs at their discretion and to their sole benefit. PAC destruction was the direct result of the ESPN/Fox stranglehold on CFB and their ability to manipulate the sport to their benefit.

The current values of existing CFB TV contracts is $3B and as cited by multiple outlets, that value would be doubled with media rights pooling and in conjunction with rational realignment, the PAC would be revived with OSU/WSU included.

From USA Today article re' Campbell: "Currently, the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and Big 12 earn an estimated $3 billion combined annually from media rights. But a high-placed industry official told USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity due to the nature of the subject that a single-payer system (pooled rights) could double the current value of the combined power conference deals."

Previously posted CBS article:

Is college football undervalued? America's second-most popular game still leaving billions on the table

Ripe for venture capitalists and mega streaming deals down the line, college football's bottom line is getting astronomical

www.cbssports.com

I don't think anybody thinks that college football is in a healthy spot. Hell, I agree that they're leaving money on the table, the problem becomes there isn't an appetite or desire for anything to change because the parties with power don't want it to.