When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

[1SEIACLONE]

I think the problem people have is you keep coming back to "they'll never be popular unless people can fuel in 5 minutes".

Most EV owners feel like it takes them between 2 and 3 seconds to fuel up, they think driving to a gas station and fueling up for 5 minutes is like rewinding a VHS and driving it back to Blockbuster.

There is a new tech in China that can charge an EV in 5 minutes, but I don't think it will take that for the growth to continue because I'm already seeing adoption all the time where I live and we don't have that.

Do me a favor will you, wife and I are planning on driving down to Miami on Friday, taking our daughter and 2 grandchildren with us. What would be the best EV to rent to make this journey on Friday, with enough room for the 5 of us plus room for suitcases. Also could you do me a favor and map out where I can find the quick charging stations along the way, Ames, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta and then Miami.

Thanks in advance.

 

[dmclone]

Do me a favor will you, wife and I are planning on driving down to Miami on Friday, taking our daughter and 2 grandchildren with us. What would be the best EV to rent to make this journey on Friday, with enough room for the 5 of us plus room for suitcases. Also could you do me a favor and map out where I can find the quick charging stations along the way, Ames, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta and then Miami.

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like a cybertruck would be perfect. This isn't 1976 with your paper map. You type in that you're going to Miami and it figures out the charging for you. Even better, pay $100 at it will drive to Miami for you.

21 hours and 46 minutes. 3 hours and 15 minutes of charging. This is assuming you don't stay in a hotel with a charger. 4 of the 8 charging stations are at the same location as a restaurant. All 8 have bathroom/ convenience stores. You're usually stopping to charge every 2.5 to 3 hours, which would be about perfect for children or old people.

Some other options

CADILLAC Lryiq 4 1/2 hours

Lucid Air 3 hours

Rivian R1T 4 1/2 hours

Kia EV9 4 hours

 

[HFCS]

Do me a favor will you, wife and I are planning on driving down to Miami on Friday, taking our daughter and 2 grandchildren with us. What would be the best EV to rent to make this journey on Friday, with enough room for the 5 of us plus room for suitcases. Also could you do me a favor and map out where I can find the quick charging stations along the way, Ames, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta and then Miami.

Thanks in advance.

Kia EV9 is your Griswold family Truckster. My neighbors have one, it's one of the largest interior vehicles I've been inside.

Not that you're being genuine in your curiosity. Also anybody who rents cars know you practically never get the model you ask for.

Again not that you're being genuine but image is one of four major charging networks, not the only one, probably second biggest behind Tesla.

 

[NWICY]

Sounds like a cybertruck would be perfect. This isn't 1976 with your paper map. You type in that you're going to Miami and it figures out the charging for you. Even better, pay $100 at it will drive to Miami for you.

21 hours and 46 minutes. 3 hours and 15 minutes of charging. This is assuming you don't stay in a hotel with a charger. 4 of the 8 charging stations are at the same location as a restaurant. All 8 have bathroom/ convenience stores. You're usually stopping to charge every 2.5 to 3 hours, which would be about perfect for children or old people.

Some other options

CADILLAC Lryiq 4 1/2 hours

Lucid Air 3 hours

Rivian R1T 4 1/2 hours

Kia EV9 4 hours

And I was just going to call him a asshat.
Nice research job.

 

[RagingCloner]

Do me a favor will you, wife and I are planning on driving down to Miami on Friday, taking our daughter and 2 grandchildren with us. What would be the best EV to rent to make this journey on Friday, with enough room for the 5 of us plus room for suitcases. Also could you do me a favor and map out where I can find the quick charging stations along the way, Ames, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta and then Miami.

Thanks in advance.

Ford lightning. Also, literally any map you use in said vehicle maps out your charge stops. This post seems riddled with ignorance and naivety

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Ford lightning. Also, literally any map you use in said vehicle maps out your charge stops. This post seems riddled with ignorance and naivety

I have never owned an EV, so how would I know about them?

 

[brianhos]

BEVs have the highest loyalty of any powertrain, and it's not really close. So in summary, people that buy them love them. You'll notice most of the issues people have with them are brought up by people that have never owned one.

I never want to go back to a gas car for commuting/daily driving.

 

[MeowingCows]

I have never owned an EV, so how would I know about them?

That's strange, you sure talk around here like you know a hell of a lot about them!

 

[RagingCloner]

I have never owned an EV, so how would I know about them?

My apologies. You appear to be an “expert” about them so naturally I just assumed. Sorry, won’t happen again

 

[1SEIACLONE]

That's strange, you sure talk around here like you know a hell of a lot about them!

No not really, never said nor implied anything more than what I have read. **** the way you guy are talking, I guess the auto manufactures are missing the boat, and should be doubling and tripling down on EV production instead of cutting back.
Guess I did not know we had some many experts on EV on here, good to know if I ever decide to purchase one.

 

[ISUAlum2002]

Not really with a hybrid I do not have to recharge the vehicle, just pull in and gas it up. One is practical for every use, there other EVs are not.
Again, I am not against EVs, I think for some they are a great choice, but not for everyone and have many drawbacks for many. Urban person. driving back and forth to work and running around town on the weekend, great. People in rural communities or taking them on vacation, not so much.
People like new technology, we always have, but many are unsure about EVs and it's based on good reason.

Literally just got back last weekend from a 3,000 mile road trip to Florida in our Model X. Third trip down there in EV's, this was the second with this car. Vacation road trips are a breeze with the Supercharger network, and faster than ever with the new 325 kW stations being built. I've done over 30,000 miles in long-range road trips (1,000 miles or more in the trip) in my Teslas over the past 6.5 years, starting with a Model 3 (which I still own) and now our Model X over the past couple of years being the family hauler.

When you've got a family with young kids, you're stopping every 2-3 hours for restroom breaks anyway (sometimes even more frequently). The Supercharger stations are spaced out nicely along main routes to make it so you can easily plan out stops in such a way to be charging while everyone does their business and gets snacks/food or whatever. Hell, during most charging stops, I'm already getting a notification on my phone showing that the car is ready to hit the road to the next planned stop before I'm even done taking a piss.

Can I drive longer stretches when I don't have the family with me? Yeah, sure. I always stretch the range more when they're not with me, but I still want to get out of the car at somewhat reasonable and regular intervals anyway. So I charge during those stops. I'm not looking to sit in my car 6+ hours at a time no matter what I'm doing or where I'm going. Not wearing adult diapers like that astronaut did.

 

[BCClone]

Literally just got back last weekend from a 3,000 mile road trip to Florida in our Model X. Third trip down there in EV's, this was the second with this car. Vacation road trips are a breeze with the Supercharger network, and faster than ever with the new 325 kW stations being built. I've done over 30,000 miles in long-range road trips (1,000 miles or more in the trip) in my Teslas over the past 6.5 years, starting with a Model 3 (which I still own) and now our Model X over the past couple of years being the family hauler.

When you've got a family with young kids, you're stopping every 2-3 hours for restroom breaks anyway (sometimes even more frequently). The Supercharger stations are spaced out nicely along main routes to make it so you can easily plan out stops in such a way to be charging while everyone does their business and gets snacks/food or whatever. Hell, during most charging stops, I'm already getting a notification on my phone showing that the car is ready to hit the road to the next planned stop before I'm even done taking a piss.

Can I drive longer stretches when I don't have the family with me? Yeah, sure. I always stretch the range more when they're not with me, but I still want to get out of the car at somewhat reasonable and regular intervals anyway. So I charge during those stops. I'm not looking to sit in my car 6+ hours at a time no matter what I'm doing or where I'm going. Not wearing adult diapers like that astronaut did.

For family trips when we had young kids. We would usually get rolling around 2-3 am. That way the kids (wife would also)would sleep the first 6 hours or so of the trip. I could get about one more hour in before we had to stop to eat. Saved a lot of complaining and issues I found.

 

[VTXCyRyD]

Its not the stopping that is the problem, its the amount of time it takes to refuel the EV, for a regular gas vehicle we are talking less than 5 minutes, until we can fully charge an EV in 10 to 15 minutes, its never going to be a huge seller and always be the work or second vehicle for many.

I get it and thought the same thing too. What I found out is that when we stop for a rest room break, we spend more time than 5 minutes, and much closer to the 15 minutes it takes to get a quick charge to make it to the next stop. We have never really waited for the car to finish charging when making a stop. Anything more than 2 stops is usually an overnighter somewhere so that is inconsequential as well because we can do a complete charge at a hotel or close by.

 

[NWICY]

Literally just got back last weekend from a 3,000 mile road trip to Florida in our Model X. Third trip down there in EV's, this was the second with this car. Vacation road trips are a breeze with the Supercharger network, and faster than ever with the new 325 kW stations being built. I've done over 30,000 miles in long-range road trips (1,000 miles or more in the trip) in my Teslas over the past 6.5 years, starting with a Model 3 (which I still own) and now our Model X over the past couple of years being the family hauler.

When you've got a family with young kids, you're stopping every 2-3 hours for restroom breaks anyway (sometimes even more frequently). The Supercharger stations are spaced out nicely along main routes to make it so you can easily plan out stops in such a way to be charging while everyone does their business and gets snacks/food or whatever. Hell, during most charging stops, I'm already getting a notification on my phone showing that the car is ready to hit the road to the next planned stop before I'm even done taking a piss.

Can I drive longer stretches when I don't have the family with me? Yeah, sure. I always stretch the range more when they're not with me, but I still want to get out of the car at somewhat reasonable and regular intervals anyway. So I charge during those stops. I'm not looking to sit in my car 6+ hours at a time no matter what I'm doing or where I'm going. Not wearing adult diapers like that astronaut did.

How is the battery degradation (i think that is the term?) Doing on the model 3?
Don't have to share if you don't want to, but I was just curious how the older battery is doing.

 

[RedlineSi]

Do me a favor will you, wife and I are planning on driving down to Miami on Friday, taking our daughter and 2 grandchildren with us. What would be the best EV to rent to make this journey on Friday, with enough room for the 5 of us plus room for suitcases. Also could you do me a favor and map out where I can find the quick charging stations along the way, Ames, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta and then Miami.

Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't be caught dead in a CyberTruck. I'd rent a Rivian R1S.

 

[dmclone]

I wouldn't be caught dead in a CyberTruck. I'd rent a Rivian R1S.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret, he wouldn't be caught dead in any BEV.

 

[CascadeClone]

BEVs have the highest loyalty of any powertrain, and it's not really close. So in summary, people that buy them love them. You'll notice most of the issues people have with them are brought up by people that have never owned one.

I think that's normal human behavior though. Before spending money (esp a BUNCH of money) you try to think thru the potential downsides or pitfalls - how might I get screwed on this? So naturally you get to range/recharging on the road, and its not as easy as getting gas. So you fix on that as an issue, and it is a legitimate concern.

But like a lot of things, once you have to actually do it, you realize its not as bad as you thought it might be. That would explain why the EV satisfaction numbers are so high.

All these things just take time.

 

[ScottyP]

I will be looking at replacing my vehicle within the next few years. I have three young kids so I need something that I can fit all of them into. What would be a good BEV family vehicle option, if I choose to go that route? Keep in mind, I am probably buying used. It will mostly be used for commuting but I need to have the capability to haul all three kids occasionally.

 

[CascadeClone]

I'm going to let you in on a little secret, he wouldn't be caught dead in any BEV.

He literally said if he was still working, he would likely have one.

You are leading a public lynching like he's a "rolling coal" idiot, against a guy who is basically just pointing out the less EV-friendly missions and his personal concerns.

 

[ScottyP]

I follow this thread mainly to find updates on new electric vehicles and BEV technology, but this thread gives off a "shame on you if you don't drive a BEV" vibe