100%, and I had many of these same concerns before buying a Tesla. Part of the problem is that you hear these horror stories from non-owners, and they stick in your head until you actually experience reality.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Glad that you are happy with your EV purchase, I am very happy with my Toyota Hybrid, not sure why we have to attack people that do not believe exactly like others, but we seem to do it a lot around here.
Is EV's the future, I have no idea, are they the perfect car for many, could be. But for everyone, no vehicle is.
Have a great day and a better week.
Were you actually considering renting a BEV to go to Miami later this week?
I just wish they didn't have those ugly headlights. The rest of the vehicle looks good.
I checked some prices for a used one (2023). Woof! I hope those prices go way down, because they will need to be 10+ years old before I could afford that.
Last night I test drive the EV Subaru Solterra. The dealership is offering huge incentives to move the car. We also talked about a hybrid Forrester and the dealer said no deals on the hybrid Forrester because they can't keep them on the lot. He said that was true for a lot of manufacturers (Ford told me they cannot keep hybrid Mavericks on the lot either).
If you want my opinion I think what happened is manufacturers thought there would be a massive shift to EVs, but that hasn't been the case so they scaled back production. There is steady and increasing demand but not a large abandoning of ICE vehicles thus a pull-back. What seems to be happening now is now that we are getting more and more hybrid options people are opting for the hybrids, and I see a future where some hybrid owners will eventually shift to a plug-in hybrids and some will shift to a full EVs after their initial hybrid. That initial hybrid may be the hook to get them to begin converting.
I said previously I am all about going full EV (my dream has always been to dump all my gas powered machines because I hate being held hostage by the oil market), but my wife is very concerned about the exception and not the norm. We talked to second sales person last night who also owns a Solterra and it really seemed to calm a lot of her fears. As he said, it just thinking about driving differently and when to charge. She has free charging at work, so I think I saw a light come on.
I love the look of mine...I understand they can be polarizing though.
Whats your budget?
Has anyone had an EV for 5-7 years (or even longer would be better)? I generally buy my wife’s vehicles in that timeframe (why longer would be better) and want to know how battery life is when going 100k to 150k (usually drive our stuff to 200k and sometimes more miles.
Not a trolling question. Most people I’ve heard talk have bought new or a couple years old. That isn’t my purchase wheelhouse. That’s The biggest reason I haven’t considered one for my wife’s vehicle. I always drive a pickup and about 1/3 or more of the time I have a trailer on it and it’s nothing for me to drive 200-300 miles daily. And for those, I buy even older since I crank the miles on them.
Not a trolling question. Most people I’ve heard talk have bought new or a couple years old. That isn’t my purchase wheelhouse. That’s The biggest reason I haven’t considered one for my wife’s vehicle. I always drive a pickup and about 1/3 or more of the time I have a trailer on it and it’s nothing for me to drive 200-300 miles daily. And for those, I buy even older since I crank the miles on them.
I looked into renting a larger vehicle , but the cost of doing so for a week, and actually finding one to rent just did not allow it. Would have been just as cheap to fly.
Battery life has been proven to be better than expected, plus you get some pretty good warranties on them.
Existing EV batteries may last up to 40% longer than expected
Consumers’ real-world stop-and-go driving of electric vehicles benefits batteries more than the steady use simulated in almost all laboratory tests of new battery designs, Stanford-SLAC study finds.
news.stanford.edu
Yeah, this is my problem. That study was for new to two years old, and it’s just says it will last longer than expected. Not sure where the headline came from since it never really gave any firm data in the article.Battery life has been proven to be better than expected, plus you get some pretty good warranties on them.
Existing EV batteries may last up to 40% longer than expected
Consumers’ real-world stop-and-go driving of electric vehicles benefits batteries more than the steady use simulated in almost all laboratory tests of new battery designs, Stanford-SLAC study finds.
What are the warranties on the batteries?
Maybe some of the Hyundai products.
EV9 in a few years could be in your range.
Personally, I think we should go the Fallout route and have nuclear-powered cars. Submarines can do it, so we can too!
But seriously, we should've had hybrid-almost-everything 10, 15, 20 years ago. The tech was always there for that. We intentionally went against it, especially in this country in particular, because so many people had to go out of their way to demonize the goddamn Prius. Everyone just had to roll coal on Prius owners and label them all gay for 15 years so everyone else got afraid of advancing the world of hybrids for no actual reason at all. Set us back literally decades for nothing. There is some room to produce and sell more hybrids, not a lot, but some. I suspect they aren't being produced to demand somewhat intentionally to keep prices up, as opposed to BEVs, which were being pumped out rapidly to match massive government discounts on them in the same time span. Mavericks sold a grand total of under 100,000 Mavericks last year -- not all of which were hybrids, as they offer ICE drivetrains also. They sold over 400,000 F-150s for comparison. The Maverick is outsold by the Escape and Explorer. It's far from a top seller, but the demand for the product is there (both it being a hybrid, and it being just a small truck).
I know for my particular lifestyle, I could go buy a plug-in hybrid tomorrow and be covered for pretty much every facet of my life. It would be weeks, possibly months between me stopping at a gas station with one of those as the vast majority of my driving could and would be done on the battery. Can't do that even with a traditional hybrid.
To be fair the Prius drivers all got together and decided to always drive 5mph under the speed limit, so that didn't help their cause.
I wonder what percentage of Norwegians can charge at home?
You do know that the majority of electricity is from LNG. If spurring oil companies is at the top of your list, you’re pretty much arranging deck chairs.
Toyota is ramping up their hybrid production, in 2025 they will no longer offer a gas version of the Camry, nor the Sienna Van. I have been hearing that they are also thinking about moving away from the gas version of their popular Grand Highlander and only offer it as a hybrid. They are scaling back their plans to build EV's, down from a planned 1.5 million units to 1.0 million units to meet the demand for hybrids. Volvo and Ford are also scaling back future plans for EV vehicles.
