When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 54 6.6%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 144 17.6%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 186 22.8%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 425 52.0%

  • Total voters
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HFCS

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My wife and I discussed trading off her Mach E on something larger and the Rivian R1S would be a great fit but I'm leery of not having anything nearby if something goes sideways.

They are going to sink or explode depending on R2 and R3.

It will be like when Tesla launched Model 3.
 

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They are going to sink or explode depending on R2 and R3.

It will be like when Tesla launched Model 3.
The R2 and R3 are a HUGE key to their long term success...but lets also not forget that every VW EV in the future will have Rivian's software and a lot of other key components in them. Tesla did not have that.

"R2 is the platform that will underpin actually all future EV products at VW," Bensaid said in an interview with Yahoo Finance. "So it's really that modular, scalable technology stack that we will take into VW brands, and we will do it in a way where we will still allow each of the brands to express their own identity."
 
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The R2 and R3 are a HUGE key to their long term success...but lets also not forget that every VW EV in the future will have Rivian's software and a lot of other key components in them. Tesla did not have that.

"R2 is the platform that will underpin actually all future EV products at VW," Bensaid said in an interview with Yahoo Finance. "So it's really that modular, scalable technology stack that we will take into VW brands, and we will do it in a way where we will still allow each of the brands to express their own identity."

It's exciting.

I also think R2 is just what the American consumer is addicted to for some reason in terms of size of an every day suburban driving vehicle. Nobody has it quite right imho. All of them seem unnecessarily large or most EV "suv" are actually more of a crossover than an actual SUV.
 

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Yeah my wife doesn't like driving the R1S as she feels its too big for her. We reserved an R2 day one so she's looking forward to that. Will be replacing her Rav 4 Hybrid.
 

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I would say the when is a huge question for many people, is this 5 to 10 minute full charge going to happen in 5 years or 35 years? Just because some thing is better technology really does not matter, there have been many products produced that lost out in the end, even though they were the superior product. I can remember years ago when everyone thought diesels were the future for cars here in the US, in fact my brother owned one, nothing but problems. Now they sell well in Europe but just never caught in in the US. EV's may well be the same thing, just the hint during the Biden administration that they were pushing EVs and cutting down production of ICE vehicles went over like a person with VD at a group orgy.
No one can predict with much accuracy what the American people will want to purchase next year let alone 5 to 10 years from now.
The diesel my buddy drove and loved in Italy and most of the other great diesels that are killing it in Europe can't make the emission standards in the U.S.
 

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I would say the when is a huge question for many people, is this 5 to 10 minute full charge going to happen in 5 years or 35 years? Just because some thing is better technology really does not matter, there have been many products produced that lost out in the end, even though they were the superior product. I can remember years ago when everyone thought diesels were the future for cars here in the US, in fact my brother owned one, nothing but problems. Now they sell well in Europe but just never caught in in the US. EV's may well be the same thing, just the hint during the Biden administration that they were pushing EVs and cutting down production of ICE vehicles went over like a person with VD at a group orgy.
No one can predict with much accuracy what the American people will want to purchase next year let alone 5 to 10 years from now.
Well, the technology already exists so its already "happening". The adoption of that technology depends on the US citizens. Given the American people currently don't seem to value the majority of the benefits that EV provides tells me its going to take a very long time. The US looks like its going to fall behind globally in a lot of areas on its current trajectory.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Honestly im not sure. still ignorant to some of this stuff. from what I can see one of the stops is at a 350KW chargers, which my understanding as of now is that those are fairly fast chargers, but the other one is a 6.5 kw, however there is a 125kw nearby. still trying to understand these things
From the article posted about batteries lasting longer than expected, it mentioned that faster charging deteriorated the battery faster. charging past 80% did also. So it’s best to avoid fast chargers if you can.
 

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From the article posted about batteries lasting longer than expected, it mentioned that faster charging deteriorated the battery faster. charging past 80% did also. So it’s best to avoid fast chargers if you can.
Honestly, Im leasing the vehicle, so long term battery health is not high on my priority list. Yes, i know that makes me sound like an *******
 
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Well, the technology already exists so its already "happening". The adoption of that technology depends on the US citizens. Given the American people currently don't seem to value the majority of the benefits that EV provides tells me its going to take a very long time. The US looks like its going to fall behind globally in a lot of areas on its current trajectory.

My building has 10 units, 10 garages and 17 cars filling those spots. We're up to 8 out of 17 vehicles that are EVs and half of the owners are EV only.

People still act like this is some crazy distant Jetsons sci fi. It's already here in many parts of the USA and in many countries.

This isn't like Laserdisc or the Segway scooter, it's much more like the early days of the iPhone in terms of adoption rate.
 

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Honestly im not sure. still ignorant to some of this stuff. from what I can see one of the stops is at a 350KW chargers, which my understanding as of now is that those are fairly fast chargers, but the other one is a 6.5 kw, however there is a 125kw nearby. still trying to understand these things

6.5Kw is 240v 27 amps, so what you probably have in your garage.
 

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My building has 10 units, 10 garages and 17 cars filling those spots. We're up to 8 out of 17 vehicles that are EVs and half of the owners are EV only.

People still act like this is some crazy distant Jetsons sci fi. It's already here in many parts of the USA and in many countries.

This isn't like Laserdisc or the Segway scooter, it's much more like the early days of the iPhone in terms of adoption rate.
California, and especially southern California, isn't very representative of much of the country. But I hope you are right. I feel eventually the country will get there, but many Americans will need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
 

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My building has 10 units, 10 garages and 17 cars filling those spots. We're up to 8 out of 17 vehicles that are EVs and half of the owners are EV only.

People still act like this is some crazy distant Jetsons sci fi. It's already here in many parts of the USA and in many countries.

This isn't like Laserdisc or the Segway scooter, it's much more like the early days of the iPhone in terms of adoption rate.
This. It’s building faster than is given credit for. People being cautious is normal. Folks like to see others get stuff first and then adopt after. I mean here in Sioux City I have being seeing more and more every year.
 

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California, and especially southern California, isn't very representative of much of the country. But I hope you are right. I feel eventually the country will get there, but many Americans will need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
Honestly, a week ago, this was me. an EV wasnt even on my radar
 

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California, and especially southern California, isn't very representative of much of the country. But I hope you are right. I feel eventually the country will get there, but many Americans will need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.

It’s incredibly representative of the rest of the country 5-10 years from now over the past 80 years though. Almost without fail.
 

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So if im stopping at fast charging stations what do i need to expect for time? 40 minutes per stop?

In my calculation. i would be anywhere from 25-30%
Our Mach E has a 99 kwh battery. When I charge in Albert Lea it's a 125 kwh charger and I almost never charge past 80% because it slows down so much. 32 minutes has taken me from 3% to 80% (roughly 200 mile range in theory).

I'm not sure what the Lightning can take for a max charge rate but I would imagine it's higher than a 2022 Mach E.
 

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Our Mach E has a 99 kwh battery. When I charge in Albert Lea it's a 125 kwh charger and I almost never charge past 80% because it slows down so much. 32 minutes has taken me from 3% to 80% (roughly 200 mile range in theory).

I'm not sure what the Lightning can take for a max charge rate but I would imagine it's higher than a 2022 Mach E.
i believe its 150kwh? cannot confirm
 

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California, and especially southern California, isn't very representative of much of the country. But I hope you are right. I feel eventually the country will get there, but many Americans will need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.

Just got back from SoCal. Lovely weather and had a great time. However, I saw many late teens/early 20s men wearing long, past the knee jean shorts. I’ll take your EV’s but please keep those in LA please.
 

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