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Frak

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It’s like you think I’m too dumb to realize that you’re all mocking how Hawk fans wave to kids are the UI Hospitals from Kinnick.

Or…are you just too buck stupid to realize that’s what you just took part in?

Freaking idiot. Mocking people who wave to terminally ill kids, just because they’re Iowa fans.

That’s just plain sick. And I don’t mean in current slang.
I’ll mock it. Look, it’s a fine tradition that they started a few years ago. Maybe a little corny, but whatever. What I’ll mock is that Iowa fans can’t help but pat themselves on the back for something that takes so little effort or sacrifice. Just like ANF. In theory it’s a good thing, but man do they like to act like they are really helping farmers when they aren’t. Waving at sick kids is great, but don’t act like you’re making this huge difference by raising your hand. Now if everyone in that stadium donated $1 each game to sick kids, I’d be actually impressed.
 
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I’ll mock it. Look, it’s a fine tradition that they started a few years ago. Maybe a little corny, but whatever. What I’ll mock is that Iowa fans can’t help but pat themselves on the back for something that takes so little effort or sacrifice. Just like ANF. In theory it’s a good thing, but man do they like to act like they are really helping farmers when they aren’t. Waving at sick kids is great, but don’t act like you’re making this huge difference by raising your hand. Now if everyone in that stadium donated $1 each game to sick kids, I’d be actually impressed.
You know, if you want to pat yourself on the back for saying “I’m an *******”, while rationalizing desperately why you’re doing it, be my guest.

It puts a smile on dying kids’ faces. Makes them happy a few times a year, forget the radiation and the chemo, being away from their family and friends. Mock away.

You’re showing everyone what really matters to you—and it’s not the kids.
 
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You know, if you want to pat yourself on the back for saying “I’m an *******”, while rationalizing desperately why you’re doing it, be my guest.

It puts a smile on dying kids’ faces. Makes them happy a few times a year, forget the radiation and the chemo, being away from their family and friends. Mock away.

You’re showing everyone what really matters to you—and it’s not the kids.
It's clear u are missing the point.
 
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Frak

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You know, if you want to pat yourself on the back for saying “I’m an *******”, while rationalizing desperately why you’re doing it, be my guest.

It puts a smile on dying kids’ faces. Makes them happy a few times a year, forget the radiation and the chemo, being away from their family and friends. Mock away.

You’re showing everyone what really matters to you—and it’s not the kids.

Sure. You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying. That’s fine.
 

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I think they finally located that pirate treasure. A couple chests of jewels and doubloons will fund the athletic department quite well.

Why else would the backhoe be going after dark?
The wet weather set them back, hence the extra hours.
 
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I had the opportunity to ask Jamie about this last fall and he said that it is on their To-Do List, but not a priority. He likes the idea of them from a fan experience aspect with light shows after TDs and whatnot.
Wonder if updated lighting like that could attract more music acts. No idea if lighting has to be brought in for big concerts or what, I imagine some acts want dynamic lighting.
 

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I’ll mock it. Look, it’s a fine tradition that they started a few years ago. Maybe a little corny, but whatever. What I’ll mock is that Iowa fans can’t help but pat themselves on the back for something that takes so little effort or sacrifice. Just like ANF. In theory it’s a good thing, but man do they like to act like they are really helping farmers when they aren’t. Waving at sick kids is great, but don’t act like you’re making this huge difference by raising your hand. Now if everyone in that stadium donated $1 each game to sick kids, I’d be actually impressed.
It’s a fine sentiment to the sick kids. Hopefully it helps take their minds off of the bad situation they are in. However, I don’t get the Hok fans that will stand up at the end of the first quarter at Jack Trice, face east and wave at the sky. I realize the hospital building is tall, but the kids can’t see you. It’s virtue signaling. They would be better off writing a check to the hospital instead.
 

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It's clear u are missing the point.

Sure. You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying. That’s fine.
Nope. I totally get what you’re saying. ANF started out as a fine thing, at a time it was needed, and has long since evolved into pure virtue signalling.

Saying I don’t get what you’re saying is simply more rationalization.

I’ll try to put it more simply. You can’t mock the insipid fans without mocking the overall thing. It doesn’t partition or subdivide. At least, not the way peopkd here are doing it.

And it’s frustrating to me that so many of you guys don’t get it.
 

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Nope. I totally get what you’re saying. ANF started out as a fine thing, at a time it was needed, and has long since evolved into pure virtue signalling.

Saying I don’t get what you’re saying is simply more rationalization.

I’ll try to put it more simply. You can’t mock the insipid fans without mocking the overall thing. It doesn’t partition or subdivide. At least, not the way peopkd here are doing it.

And it’s frustrating to me that so many of you guys don’t get it.

It's not about the act of waving. It's never been about the act of waving.

It's about the fact that an idea started online by a few fans as a nice gesture was quickly co-opted by the athletic department, given a HUGE dose of PR/spin, and now we're all supposed to believe that The Wave is simply the greatest tradition in college football, if not all of sports.

It's viewed by many Iowa fans as some type of moral superiority. If you don't wave, you're an *******. If you don't wave long enough (yes, really), you're an *******.

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Virtue signaling (def.): the sharing of one's point of view on a social or political issue...in order to garner praise or acknowledgment of one’s righteousness from others who share that point of view, or to passively rebuke those who do not.
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It's not Mecca, for crying out loud. You don't have to turn and wave in the hospital's general direction from whatever stadium you happen to be in at the time.

There's also an incredible irony of one part of the university taking the "we love sick kids" position, while another part of the university has repeatedly stiffed the contractors of the very building where those kids are.
 

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They think they are better for doing the wave. Good for them. Write an effing check, donate your time to the hospital, but please don't think are better for doing it. It's disingenuous bs.
 
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It's not about the act of waving. It's never been about the act of waving.

It's about the fact that an idea started online by a few fans as a nice gesture was quickly co-opted by the athletic department, given a HUGE dose of PR/spin, and now we're all supposed to believe that The Wave is simply the greatest tradition in college football, if not all of sports.

It's viewed by many Iowa fans as some type of moral superiority. If you don't wave, you're an *******. If you don't wave long enough (yes, really), you're an *******.

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Virtue signaling (def.): the sharing of one's point of view on a social or political issue...in order to garner praise or acknowledgment of one’s righteousness from others who share that point of view, or to passively rebuke those who do not.
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It's not Mecca, for crying out loud. You don't have to turn and wave in the hospital's general direction from whatever stadium you happen to be in at the time.

There's also an incredible irony of one part of the university taking the "we love sick kids" position, while another part of the university has repeatedly stiffed the contractors of the very building where those kids are.
What happens if you’re at a game over there and you’re not waving? Kind of like the Seinfeld episode when Kramer wouldn’t wear the ribbon for the aids walk?
 

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It’s a fine sentiment to the sick kids. Hopefully it helps take their minds off of the bad situation they are in. However, I don’t get the Hok fans that will stand up at the end of the first quarter at Jack Trice, face east and wave at the sky. I realize the hospital building is tall, but the kids can’t see you. It’s virtue signaling. They would be better off writing a check to the hospital instead.
The fact that they would know which way East actually is, may be giving Hok fans a little too much credit.
 
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As a cancer survivor, that also lost his wife to that terrible disease, I thought the “Wave” was a fantastic thing when it started. It brought attention to the need for cancer research. But over the past few years it’s become more about Iowa football than about the fight for a cancer solution. Iowa fans look at the “Wave” as an attention grabber for their football program. "Look at us, we wave at cancer patients".

Imagine if every person attending the game at Kinnick would wave their one hand and with the other hand open up their phone and donate $5.00 to Cancer Research.

70,000 people donating $5.00 would be $350,000 a game.

7 home games at $350,000 a game equals
$2,450,000 a season going to Cancer Research.
Now that’s something everyone can support.