The Odyssey trailer 2 (full trailer)

I thought the movie was really good. The theater I was in was super loud...as in you had to cover your ears when there's any action or sea sequence loud. My ears were honestly ringing after the show like I was at a rock concert. Don't know if everyone had an experience like that but holy crap that was loud.

As for the movie, there were just some flat out stunning visuals. Something Nolan is really good at. I thought that Damon was great, Hathaway was great, Leguizamo probably stole the show, he was awesome. Pattinson was great playing a skeezy a-hole. I thought that they could have given Tom Holland more, as he came off as kind of a wiener. Like his dad was fighting a whole group of guys and he was upstairs struggling with one dude.

As far as the anti-woke crowd, I didn't care about Page being in it, but it should have been Achilles that Odyssius spoke to in Hades. And Helen should have been the prettiest model they could find. That said, they were small parts and pretty inconsequential.
There are lots of standards for beauty, but man, Lupita Nyong'o is gorgeous. She was plenty attractive to play the role.

And having Achilles in place of Sinon in Hades would rob us of a whole plot point, with Page taking Pattinson's place in the army.
Also Page's speech to Odysseus in Hades was one of the best parts of the movie. Achilles couldn't have had the same conversation or made the same impact on Odysseus as Sinon could.
Achilles doesn't allow Nolan to tell the story that he wants to tell.
 
There are lots of standards for beauty, but man, Lupita Nyong'o is gorgeous. She was plenty attractive to play the role.

And having Achilles in place of Sinon in Hades would rob us of a whole plot point, with Page taking Pattinson's place in the army.
Also Page's speech to Odysseus in Hades was one of the best parts of the movie. Achilles couldn't have had the same conversation or made the same impact on Odysseus as Sinon could.
Achilles doesn't allow Nolan to tell the story that he wants to tell.
I don't really agree with any of that, but I see your point and why Nolan did it. It would be different if it were done in a more "conventional" way and a different message. As I said, I don't think that it takes away from the movie even if I would have done it differently.
 
I thought the movie was really good. The theater I was in was super loud...as in you had to cover your ears when there's any action or sea sequence loud. My ears were honestly ringing after the show like I was at a rock concert. Don't know if everyone had an experience like that but holy crap that was loud.

As for the movie, there were just some flat out stunning visuals. Something Nolan is really good at. I thought that Damon was great, Hathaway was great, Leguizamo probably stole the show, he was awesome. Pattinson was great playing a skeezy a-hole. I thought that they could have given Tom Holland more, as he came off as kind of a wiener. Like his dad was fighting a whole group of guys and he was upstairs struggling with one dude.

As far as the anti-woke crowd, I didn't care about Page being in it, but it should have been Achilles that Odyssius spoke to in Hades. And Helen should have been the prettiest model they could find. That said, they were small parts and pretty inconsequential.
Everyone has their tastes, but I would die on a hill that Lupita is one of the most stunning humans on this earth.
 
There are lots of standards for beauty, but man, Lupita Nyong'o is gorgeous. She was plenty attractive to play the role.

And having Achilles in place of Sinon in Hades would rob us of a whole plot point, with Page taking Pattinson's place in the army.
Also Page's speech to Odysseus in Hades was one of the best parts of the movie. Achilles couldn't have had the same conversation or made the same impact on Odysseus as Sinon could.
Achilles doesn't allow Nolan to tell the story that he wants to tell.
you beat me to it. Lupita is one of the most stunning humans, male or female, on earth. Full stop.
 
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Just bought a ticket to see it in 70mm IMAX at the nearest such theater to me, 3 hours away in Buford, GA, on my birthday a few weeks from now. Many of the showings between now and mid-August are filling up. I think this movie will have some serious legs at the box office.
 
Just bought a ticket to see it in 70mm IMAX at the nearest such theater to me, 3 hours away in Buford, GA, on my birthday a few weeks from now. Many of the showings between now and mid-August are filling up. I think this movie will have some serious legs at the box office.
i love that you're doing that! will be an event for you on your big day. :)
 
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I didn't know that.

There is an interpretation of The Illiad consistent with this reading – Achilles is certainly not the hero and probably not even the protagonist even if the opening line is on his rage.

It's Hector.

Hector is the one fighting a losing battle against a demigod like Achilles to defense his homeland, his family, his wife, and his child. The scene of him removing his helmet because it scared his infant son and comforting him before turning around, putting it back on, and heading back out there is heartbreaking.

He's clearly the most respected figure in the war by both sides.

His death and the dishonor of his corpse is the real tragedy.

Homer (and seems Nolan picks up on this notion) tells us again and again war makes great men into terrible men or dead men. Achilles, Odysseus, Agamemnon, it brings out the worst in all of them, and gets most of them killed, and only really Odysseus gets to have a happy ending after 20 years of suffering.

Oppenheimer was built around the same themes.

But not Hector. War kills Hector.
 
Lupita Nyong'o is gorgeous.

I don't know this thought for a fact but it wouldn't surprise me if Nolan casting her as Helen was a troll job. She's obviously gorgeous and a brilliant actress qualified for a part like that one.

But if it pisses a certain population off... I think Nolan might have seen that as a feature not a bug.
 
There is an interpretation of The Illiad consistent with this reading – Achilles is certainly not the hero and probably not even the protagonist even if the opening line is on his rage.

It's Hector.

Hector is the one fighting a losing battle against a demigod like Achilles to defense his homeland, his family, his wife, and his child. The scene of him removing his helmet because it scared his infant son and comforting him before turning around, putting it back on, and heading back out there is heartbreaking.

He's clearly the most respected figure in the war by both sides.

His death and the dishonor of his corpse is the real tragedy.

Homer (and seems Nolan picks up on this notion) tells us again and again war makes great men into terrible men or dead men. Achilles, Odysseus, Agamemnon, it brings out the worst in all of them, and gets most of them killed, and only really Odysseus gets to have a happy ending after 20 years of suffering.

Oppenheimer was built around the same themes.

But not Hector. War kills Hector.
Hector rules.
 
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