2016 Div 1 Softball BYU gets special dates

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Just thought I'd point it out, BYU regional plays Thurs - Sat, all others are Fri - Sun.
 

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Realistically, a big deal is made of BYU's Sunday observance, but it seems way overblown to me. There are far worse things going on with college athletics than people making a minor concession to accommodate peoples' faith.
 

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I think it's great the NCAA accommodates religious belief like this. Seems to be an easy and simple change that will have no negative repercussions but will be important to the people at BYU. So who is hurt? Kind of sad how some people react IMO
 

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I always wonder how religious the team really is . . . imagining a team full of Jim McMahon's!
 

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I don't see a problem with it. If it were a sudden issue, like BYU won on Saturday, and then informed the other team they were supposed to play Sunday that they couldn't, then it would be a problem.
 

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And weird schedules happen often in softball...two years ago, all of Iowa States conference games were supposed to be single games on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, but at least half of them became double headers on Saturday due to weather issues or a team needing to get back by Sunday.
 

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For most sports it doesn't have a major impact. I respect their adherence to their faith, but do not feel that their faith should dictate secular conference schedules or NCAA tournament or bowl brackets/pairings.
 

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For most sports it doesn't have a major impact. I respect their adherence to their faith, but do not feel that their faith should dictate secular conference schedules or NCAA tournament or bowl brackets/pairings.

This gets my vote. They always get put in Thursday/Saturday sites for the NCAA basketball tournament I assume?
 

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This gets my vote. They always get put in Thursday/Saturday sites for the NCAA basketball tournament I assume?

There was quite a dust up a few years back when they were in a bracket that (if they had won in round 1) would have had them playing on Sunday, and they were quite irate about it. I don't know if the selection committee has consciously taken it into account since then, but it's an additional factor for the committee that none of the other private Christian schools (Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Disciples, etc) have demanded.
 

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With March Madness having TH/Sat and Fri/Sun pairings, I could not understand anyone being upset about BYU getting an accommodation to get put on TH/Sat
 

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BYU womens golf team is scheduled to play Friday thru Sunday in the NCAA tournament . They are being allowed to play Sundays round Thursday. The other teams will play Sunday as scheduled . I feel every team should play under the same conditions. This could be a great advantage or hinder depending on wind, rain, etc.
 

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With March Madness having TH/Sat and Fri/Sun pairings, I could not understand anyone being upset about BYU getting an accommodation to get put on TH/Sat

Since ISU hosted in Des Moines this spring on a Thursday/Saturday pairing, I feel that they should have been placed in a bracket with a Friday/Sunday pairing so that we would not have to choose between watching our team play and watching the first round games in Des Moines. Certainly a reasonable request to make of the selection committee. In fact, if any other schools had that same objection, they should certainly have accommodated ALL of us, right? Of course, my analogy is not the same as a religious objection to many people, but this is not a religious event. It is a secular event.

The point being, BYU is dictating scheduling accommodations not currently afforded to other schools. And if those schools should decide to require the same accommodations, we start having much larger scheduling issues. Fairness dictates all or none. In a secular setting, I prefer none.
 

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Serious question - do any of BYU's football players play in the NFL?

I think it is fine for the NCAA to make reasonable scheduling changes for them and accommodate them where possible. I don't think it is right for them to have any inherent advantage by moving a game (like the golf example listed above).
 

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Since ISU hosted in Des Moines this spring on a Thursday/Saturday pairing, I feel that they should have been placed in a bracket with a Friday/Sunday pairing so that we would not have to choose between watching our team play and watching the first round games in Des Moines. Certainly a reasonable request to make of the selection committee. In fact, if any other schools had that same objection, they should certainly have accommodated ALL of us, right? Of course, my analogy is not the same as a religious objection to many people, but this is not a religious event. It is a secular event.

The point being, BYU is dictating scheduling accommodations not currently afforded to other schools. And if those schools should decide to require the same accommodations, we start having much larger scheduling issues. Fairness dictates all or none. In a secular setting, I prefer none.

Sounds like we will agree to disagree. I think reasonable religious accommodations that have pretty much no logistical issues should be granted and we all can move on with our lives with BYU able to participate and everyone else barely affected if at all.
 

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Sounds like we will agree to disagree. I think reasonable religious accommodations that have pretty much no logistical issues should be granted and we all can move on with our lives with BYU able to participate and everyone else barely affected if at all.

Who determines what constitutes "logistical issues"? One team, or the other teams that have to accommodate them?
 

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Serious question - do any of BYU's football players play in the NFL?

I think it is fine for the NCAA to make reasonable scheduling changes for them and accommodate them where possible. I don't think it is right for them to have any inherent advantage by moving a game (like the golf example listed above).

Based on actions from the student body and occasionally the athletes themselves, I'm betting it is not the players/students making the demands. Fairly certain it's the church supporting the school. Once those kids are gone from the school, it's anyone's guess whether or not they adhere to the teachings.
 

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