2025 Bracketologies

dahliaclone

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Dave is typically good at this. I do not like this draw even though it's in Milwaukee. I would trade A&M in a heartbeat.

 

clone52

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What matrix has Kentucky ahead of us. I can't find one
What do you mean by matrix? Tons of bracket predictions have them ahead of us. The results based metrics have them significantly ahead. KPI and WAB. Also the fact that they are 7-8 against quad 1a versus 2-5 for Iowa State.

Predictive metrics love Iowa State.

Last year the committee was huge on quality victories. Auburn had the rankings of a 1 seed or top 2 seed and they ended up a 4. 1-3 in 1a and 3-9 in quad 1.

Duke was similar to us this year. Predictive metrics had them a 2 seed and results metrics had them a 4 or 4 seed. They got a 4 seed. They had a soft record.

On the other hand, North Carolina had the predictive rankings of a 3 seed but great quad records and got the 1 seed.

Marquette had the rankings of a 3 or four seed but got a 2 seed.
 

dahliaclone

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Jon was a top 10 bracketer last year and this is updated for today. It seems like a trend is forming. LOTS of brackets have us as a 3 in the east.

 
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Clonehomer

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So far in Bracketmatrixes updated today, 24 have us as a 3 seed and 9 have us as a 4 seed. And the ones that have us as a 4 have A&M as a 3, which I find unlikely.

So… I’m cautiously optimistic

Also seems pretty clear Wisconsin played their way to a 3 seed. So the overall seed line between us, Kentucky, and Wisconsin will determine if we go to Milwaukee. Otherwise I think we’re Denver bound.

Why Denver and not Wichita? Are there teams slated for that site that would also jump us?
 

clone52

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The committee saying the top 9 being locked in since Friday really throws me off. Top 6 are obvious. Michigan State makes sense as conference champs and 13-5 Q1. I guess St Johns as conference champ, but they were only 5-4 Q1 and 1-1 in q1a. Results metrics have them a 2-3 but predictive metrics have them a 4.

That leaves #9, which I think must mean Kentucky. The amount of Q1a games they have must be it.

Can't be Wisky before yesterday's win.
I have have a hard time believing Tech is that solidly ahead of Iowa State. They seem very close and Iowa State has the head to head. A&M is plausible considering 3 of their losses were without one of their top 2 players. But Iowa State also has a case there, so I doubt it's them.
 

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The committee saying the top 9 being locked in since Friday really throws me off. Top 6 are obvious. Michigan State makes sense as conference champs and 13-5 Q1. I guess St Johns as conference champ, but they were only 5-4 Q1 and 1-1 in q1a. Results metrics have them a 2-3 but predictive metrics have them a 4.

That leaves #9, which I think must mean Kentucky. The amount of Q1a games they have must be it.

Can't be Wisky before yesterday's win.
I have have a hard time believing Tech is that solidly ahead of Iowa State. They seem very close and Iowa State has the head to head. A&M is plausible considering 3 of their losses were without one of their top 2 players. But Iowa State also has a case there, so I doubt it's them.
I think it’s Tech. Most brackets have them solidly locked in as the top 3
 

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Palm updated his and he has Michigan as a 3. That just...isn't happening even if they win the title. They are 24th in the NET and 25th on KP. Anyone know if a team in the 20s of those metrics nabbed a 3 seed?
Palm's a huge B1G homer. I'm surprised he doesn't have his alma mater (Purdue) as a 1 seed.
 

clone52

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I think it’s Tech. Most brackets have them solidly locked in as the top 3
They might be, but I have such a hard time seeing them as clearly above Iowa State. Probably my cardinal glasses on display, but I think there could be a lot of group thinking involved.