The world's fastest slow offense!Throwing a lot with a slow play tempo just isn't a true air-raid. With the tempo we seem to use wouldn't that be the Turtle Raid?
After some research, I've come around on Dekkers
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Dekkers would be phenomenal if simply turned loose.
Let him just reflexively play QB and trust his instincts and arm strength.
Let him audible.
Go hurry up.
Run trips a lot to either open X up, or let him take coverage with him.
He might have the strongest arm in the conference and he is forced to dink and dunk repeatedly.
Such a waste, just like last year and this year.
Let him just reflexively play QB and trust his instincts and arm strength.
Let him audible.
Go hurry up.
Run trips a lot to either open X up, or let him take coverage with him.
He might have the strongest arm in the conference and he is forced to dink and dunk repeatedly.
Such a waste, just like last year and this year.
To be fair to Dekkers in 2 of those games he made throws that should have been TDs but were flat out drops by WRs.
I think there is something to the reflexively point. Our offense may be too complicated where success depends on the perfect read, etc. we move around and shift so much but half the time we wind up jumping offsides or missing an assignment. Sometimes it seems our guys are thinking too much.
Bingo.
You can see it in Hunter's demeanor.
He is constantly struggling between doing what he naturally wants to do, and what he has been coached to do.
Saw the same with Purdy, he was at his best when he just rolled man.
At some point in their career the best coaches realize that they must adjust their play calling to the strengths of the talent they have on the team, instead of trying to get the player to adjust to system that the coaches want to play.
I see TCU, Baylor and other teams in the conference shifting before the snap, having players go in motion, running the QB, and they all seem to handle it very well. But for ISU its difficult, then we have to change the way the offense works, or what we are trying to do. If Saban can adjust from 3 plays and cloud of dust, with game managers as QBs., to what he has now, then it's not too much to ask Campbell to do the same.
Open up the playbook, Dekker becomes the center piece both throwing and running the ball, actually run the zone read and let the defense decide whether the RB or the QB runs the ball, just like every other team that runs the play.
I see TCU, Baylor and other teams in the conference shifting before the snap, having players go in motion, running the QB, and they all seem to handle it very well. But for ISU its difficult, then we have to change the way the offense works, or what we are trying to do. If Saban can adjust from 3 plays and cloud of dust, with game managers as QBs., to what he has now, then it's not too much to ask Campbell to do the same.
Open up the playbook, Dekker becomes the center piece both throwing and running the ball, actually run the zone read and let the defense decide whether the RB or the QB runs the ball, just like every other team that runs the play.
There was a play in the Tech game where it was a bad snap and he snagged it with his right hand and just ripped the ball down the left sideline. His instincts took over and he made a play. I think that is the frustrating thing, he doesn’t seem to have great football instincts. I think he does have it in him, but I wish he would let it rip every once in a while.
Isn't the bolded an example of great football instincts?
When he's just playing football he's really good and is why the roll out looks like a great way to find that for him.
I was speaking more in terms of the turnovers and what others have said
I was speaking in terms of the turnovers and what others have said about him not seeing the field and missing open receivers. I don’t how accurate those statements are. I know when he runs the ball, especially early in the season he wasn’t running behind his pads and ran laterally instead of making a cut and getting up field, but I agree, it was nice to see his instincts take over, I want to see more of that.
He especially gets torched by zone D, playing his own game or not. His ability to see defenders in space is poor. Felt like most of his INTs came against zone, usually by him tossing a ball directly into a defender he didn't see.
If a team can run the ball, do teams play less zone? IDK, I am asking. Is it a case where we can’t run the ball, so teams can play a lot of zone, compounding the problem? Is this something Dekkers will improve upon, or is he not the guy?
The difference is the three TEs he had and breece being a good pass blocker…. Having those three TEs that are all good at blocking and pass catching was a huge threat.
I've been critical of him too. But give him breece and a mediocre line and he probably looks much better
You can kill zone well with TEs that find the soft spots and just stop and wait for the pass.
I'm no expert either, this is armchair at best.... I think the bigger problem for us is that we are so pass-heavy (due to a poor run game) that it makes more sense for defenses to sit back and wait for us to throw at them. We could encourage them to play closer in or go more into man if we did have a bigger rush threat that a defense needed to put more resources in the box to account for. At that point they'd likely be better on us to not beat them deep.
Now just because a defense is in zone doesn't mean you can't throw against it -- that should be coachable, both at the QB and the receiver levels. Receivers need to find gaps and sit in them, QB needs to identify those WRs and hit them. Take your chunks at a time. The problem with this is...it takes time. Time our OL doesn't allow for before giving up pressures and sacks.
This obviously doesn't tell the whole story, but I thought it'd be interesting to pull first season stats from the past few ISU QB's for comparison.
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Iowa State Cyclones 2022 College Football Players Stats - ESPN
Get the full Players stats for the 2022 Iowa State Cyclones on ESPN. Includes team statistics for scoring, passing rushing and offense.
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The running game is 90% offensive live, 8% RBs and 2% Dekkers on the fault scale.
Our offensive line is not even bad, they are completely incompetent when you really watch them. Bruns breaks this down on multiple podcasts.
