And so it begins... NIL

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So people are upset that we're not going to get recruits from Alabama, OU, and Texas because of NIL?? Just a heads up.... we aren't getting recruits away from Alabama, OU, and Texas now.... so what would be changing?

Brock Purdy probably can make more playing at ISU and being the star and being on the front of college football magazines, etc.... than he would have going to Alabama and riding the pine and nobody ever hearing of him or even knowing who he is.
 

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This is why people underestimate the impact for ISU. When schools that didn’t have an advantage before now have one because of their booster generosity, local market opportunities, etc it doesn’t matter that we have a rabid fan base if they aren’t as financially set. They aren’t just now recruiting the top players over us but can have uncommitted benefits to offer over an ISU much further down the ranking list.

I get that this is good for the kids and good for places like CF that can do tie ins, but for recruiting it’s just yet another hurdle for us. While that doesn’t itself kneecap us, it is one more challenge we have to constantly compete against. If you don’t see that, you don’t know how hard Matt and team already have to work to fight uphill battles with even 1-2 star kids.
I agree it's bad news. Big time booster money up to now has gone for the gaudy stadium upgrades, opulent locker rooms and player lounges, huge weight rooms, etc. It's all for one thing: to wow and bring in the recruits.
But now recruiting will be just a free agency bidding war, with far less money IMO being given directly to Pollard and Co. to use as they see fit. Are our boosters going to tolerate the offensive tackle recruit from Waukee going to Iowa - just because they paid more? No - the booster money is going to go to make LOI deals happen. And then it's all going to hit the fan.
 
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I'm hoping someone else is better versed in this.

Could a high school student benefit from NIL to take an unofficial visit to a university?
Same question, but for a college student looking to transfer.
Lawyers can't wait to take those questions to the courts
 
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Things to make your head explode---

How much is the Foundation going to have to pay for players to show up for fundraising events for the school? Gridiron Club events?

Are players going to get paid for the extra recruiting work for the school, the school is using their name as part of the recruiting process. This work takes away from the time they have available to be out promoting themselves to the public, or is this part of their scholarship contract and the education benefits they are receiving?

The players going down to Dallas to help promote Big 12 football for the schools and the conference, are they going to get paid for using their NIL and the extra work?

Players already get paid for working school sponsored camps, but what if athletes in volleyball, WBB, wrestling, want to organize camps in central Iowa that compete with the school camps because they can make more money?

A group of players from the football skill positions could work with a high school coach in the area and rent a high school field and do a 7 on 7 camp and I bet do pretty well doing it. They don't have to use the Iowa State name or any of their copyright items to promote the camp, just call it the Purdy/Hall 7 on 7 Skills Camp.

It is going to be wild, and as I wrote in another post, the people that are going to make the most money on NIL are the Title IX attorneys against schools that don't do this right.

The VERY big loser is going to be the NCAA.
 

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The VERY big loser is going to be the NCAA.
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Bribes are illegal.

Paying people for performing a service isn't.

Ahh the old grey area thats been keeping the worlds oldest profession going for years... symantics

I'm all for this because the bubble will burst quickly and reality will set in and be closer to the market value of a bunch of 18 to 21 year olds instead of the NFT style insanity happening.
 

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My biggest concern isn't players earning a buck. It’s twofold. First is the huge disparity between the star positions (QB, RB, WR) and others such as linemen or reserves who work just as hard to make the team successful (you know…the concept of TEAM). Second is the change of focus from the team and game to working on deals and money coming in rather than getting ready for and focusing on the season.
 
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The real battle will come when the schools realize dollars that they got in donations in the past are now going the NIL route. Corporate dollars in particular. The shakeout will be interesting.
 

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So people are upset that we're not going to get recruits from Alabama, OU, and Texas because of NIL?? Just a heads up.... we aren't getting recruits away from Alabama, OU, and Texas now.... so what would be changing?

Brock Purdy probably can make more playing at ISU and being the star and being on the front of college football magazines, etc.... than he would have going to Alabama and riding the pine and nobody ever hearing of him or even knowing who he is.

Is that true though? Especially since we're seeing entire teams get deals. Think about it. Purdy wasn't a sure-fire starter when he walked on campus. He wouldn't have been guaranteed anything from NIL coming here. But let's say Alabamas QB room already had a deal from some booster for $500/mo per for every player. (That's what the entire Miami team is getting)

To be honest, if I'm a high school kid from poverty, I'm not picking Iowa State in that scenario.
 

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Seems like we are only seeing FB stuff so far, wait until basketball season. The shoe companies are going to be tossing boatloads of cash around.

I'm going to guess the shoe companies won't be doing that as much as you think. Every school already has a contract for competition apparel with one of the companies already. If an athlete signs a deal with a shoe company, they most likely won't be able to wear them during the game due to the schools contract, which during the game is where you want to advertise the most.
 

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My biggest concern isn't players earning a buck. It’s twofold. First is the huge disparity between the star positions (QB, RB, WR) and others such as linemen or reserves who work just as hard to make the team successful (you know…the concept of TEAM). Second is the change of focus from the team and game to working on deals and money coming in rather than getting ready for and focusing on the season.
You are correct ... I see a lot of internal team division emerging in some of these situations. We might see some secret Matador blocking schemes .... just to get another kind of payback for an over paid QB. Jealousy can do that.
 
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You are correct ... I see a lot of division emerging in some of these situations. I hope we don't see Matador blocking by linemen team members.

I don't think this is going to happen. You don't see tight ends or RBs "matador" blocking for their QBs in the NFL, even though they are paid significant less. There can be locker room issues that stem from a player being a diva or an asshat, but not simply from one getting paid more than the other.
 
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It just seems to me we are making much ado about nothing here.

From a 25000 foot level, the most likely thing to happen is that donations to college programs will flatten somewhat as funds go to players WHO ACTUALLY WIN THE GAMES. I am guessing better funded donor bases will have a natural advantage from their deeper pockets as they currently do, but programs with rabid fans like ISU can compete with them better through NIL which levels the playing field somewhat.

We may not have a bunch of donors who can contribute $25,000 annually, but if a player like Brock can earn $4 for licensing a t-shirt, we can much more easily find 6250 Cyclone fans to buy one. The key is putting the player, the merchandise, and the buyer together in one place to make it easy. Build it and they will come!

Social media is going to be huge as we are seeing already. This represents a direct connection between player and fan. But there is also a need for hubs where fans congregate, generate excitement, distribute efficiently and get the benefit back to the player like we all want. CF is so perfectly positioned for this fan base to be a conduit in this way. I hope they realize it and go for it. The potential is already there.

This thing isn’t about $15 shirts. It’s about Cam Newton’s $250,000 deal now being completely legal and open for public bidding.
 
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My biggest concern isn't players earning a buck. It’s twofold. First is the huge disparity between the star positions (QB, RB, WR) and others such as linemen or reserves who work just as hard to make the team successful (you know…the concept of TEAM). Second is the change of focus from the team and game to working on deals and money coming in rather than getting ready for and focusing on the season.
THIS
 

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My biggest concern isn't players earning a buck. It’s twofold. First is the huge disparity between the star positions (QB, RB, WR) and others such as linemen or reserves who work just as hard to make the team successful (you know…the concept of TEAM). Second is the change of focus from the team and game to working on deals and money coming in rather than getting ready for and focusing on the season.

There is already a huge disparity in the NFL and other pro leagues. If they have issues with it at college, they better get in line because its going to get worse at the Pro level.
 
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