Also, didn't CU feel more "culturally aligned" with Pac for quite a few years prior to that wave of realignment? That's going from memory of what I read during that phase.
Big 12 Conference Realignment
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Also, didn't CU feel more "culturally aligned" with Pac for quite a few years prior to that wave of realignment? That's going from memory of what I read during that phase.
"Five of eight worst P5 teams are in the Big 10. 'Power 2' baby."
OSU Zach
ISU has lost like 33 games in the last 6 years by a score, due to the offense and special teams.
Lot of these wining programs and easy to be a fan on gameday, ISU pull in crowds even during losing seasons.
Thoughts?
www.cbssports.com
Why Big 12 luring Colorado back from Pac-12 is just a short-term solution with larger issues on the horizon
Colorado's return to the Big 12 is more of a bandage than a long-term solution
These idiots just don't get it.... We aren't trying to compete with the B1G and $EC, we are trying to be a four time-zone league that is the clear and heavy favorite to be the best league after the top 2 in football..Thoughts?
Why Big 12 luring Colorado back from Pac-12 is just a short-term solution with larger issues on the horizon
Colorado's return to the Big 12 is more of a bandage than a long-term solution
Also, this is 100% the best basketball league in the country, hands down... Basketball games provide more content for streamers and so being #1 in that for the future is the plan.
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Gotta say I like Yormark's style. Publicly putting AZ on notice to poop or get off the pot. And The threat of moving on to U Conn is very real. Personally I'd much rather have AZ than U Conn.
KidSilverhair
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That’s frankly a stupid take in that article. Yes, he’s right, nothing is “solved” by taking Colorado. The B12 didn’t “win” the conflict. As far as he goes, that’s right … but to go on and say as the B1G and SEC revenues keep outstripping the other conferences “it will eventually be untenable to somebody” … okay. Do those for which it’s “untenable” just force their way into the P2? No, of course not.
So as you say, cyfan, you nailed it - what the B12/ACC/PAC are fighting over is who’s going to be in the best position outside the P2. Gaining Colorado isn’t a play to lift the B12 up to stay level with the P2 like this writer seems to think. It’s a move to try to keep the B12 in the best possible position to be Number 3.
No matter how far B1G/SEC revenues outpace everybody else, some other conference is going to be third. That’s what this is about, not keeping up with the Richie Rich’s of CFB. And when it gets “untenable” for someone left out of the P2, it’s not gonna be up to them to make the move up. You’re gonna be at the mercy of the big guys, whether they deem you worthy or not.
What a waste of internet space to write this ridiculous take, CBS Sports guy.
Good question.
I think CU was interested in a little less travel, and the "prestige" of joining Stanford, USC, UCLA, and other cool-kids West Coast schools. Maybe CU saw some more dollars and stability too in the PAC 12 (Ha!). Well, that was a dog.
My big question is will CU capitulate to remove black as a school color as we now claim that hue?
We are never going to be Coca Cola Co or Pepsi Co... But Yormark is doing his best to position us as Keurig Dr Pepper
Yeah, there’s almost zero chance the Big 12 stops at 14…and this is why in my opinion. If the Big 12 says it’s taking three more, everyone knows it’s an Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah. And Washington and Oregon aren’t really worried about that, because they know they will land together in the Big Ten. The Big Ten will take them. But if the Big 12 floats the idea of taking one…then you may get left in the Pac8 if you don’t go. And it gets interesting. Because if Oregon comes to the Big 12, does the a Big 10 want Washington and Stanford? Or if Arizona jumps, do those two schools get left, with the Big 10 knowing they get them some day? There’s no rush though.
Questions start to pop up…
Why would the B1G take OU and UW if we take the rest of the 4 corners? The B1G isn't a charity or a search and rescue operation. They will take OU or UW if it makes them money, and that calculation has nothing to do with what the B12 does or doesn't do with the other Pac schools. The fact that they haven't moved on those two after taking USCLA tells me they are probably not interested.
The Big 12 right now is the undisputed #3. The ACC is just waiting for the exodus, and the PAC 12 is a disaster.
Agree with all this the SEC,B1G, are the millionaires of college athletics but we can live quite comfortable in the niche we have. Enough money we can sort of play with the big boys but we won't be disappointed if we fall short. We've always gotten by with less than the Texas's of the world and actually get better results for the amount we spend IMO.
I was thinking about this, but too lazy to do research immediately.
How many schools at "P5 footbal" level have left a conference willingly, then returned?
Seems like there were occurrences in ACC & SEC, although it was decades ago.
How many schools at "P5 footbal" level have left a conference willingly, then returned?
Seems like there were occurrences in ACC & SEC, although it was decades ago.
I’ve read other places that they will take them if the PAC falls apart. I believe that’s 100% accurate. Not because the Big 10 is a charitable organization but because the networks will make it worth their while to do so. Right now there is no incentive for that to happen, but the networks will not want Oregon and Washington in the Mountain West. But you do wonder if it’s only one of them and Stanford, if it’s worth it…
Ultimately this comes down to price. The networks drive all this. If ESPN/Fox decide to pay for a team they will move the respective conference.
So if Fox doesn’t want to pay full share for OU/Wash in the B1G, they and ESPN might pay partial shares for them in the B12. They get two teams at a discount. For at least 5 years. When they are in coat cut mode that would make sense to me.
It also fully secures the west coast for the B12.
That said if I am USC and UCLA I am screaming about travel partners at every B1G meeting.
So if Fox doesn’t want to pay full share for OU/Wash in the B1G, they and ESPN might pay partial shares for them in the B12. They get two teams at a discount. For at least 5 years. When they are in coat cut mode that would make sense to me.
It also fully secures the west coast for the B12.
That said if I am USC and UCLA I am screaming about travel partners at every B1G meeting.
