Big 12 Statement 9.1.2021

Cyclones1969

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Well yeah. I’m sure reading something reasonable, is a weird experience for many here. Anyway, stop deflecting.

Given all the evidence in front of you, if you had to wager your livelihood, what would you wager is the more likely outcome:

G5/6 status.

Or

An invite from P4 conference.

You have never actually been kissed by a girl before, have you?

why are you even here? Other than to be a hawk troll?
 
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Well yeah. I’m sure reading something reasonable, is a weird experience for many here. Anyway, stop deflecting.

Given all the evidence in front of you, if you had to wager your livelihood, what would you wager is the more likely outcome:

G5/6 status.

Or

An invite from P4 conference.

My money would be on an invite.
 

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Well Dordt has 50 coeds that really pass the eye test
 

WhoISthis

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I really don't understand the Memphis love, they do nothing for me. Low fan base, not good academics, worst football stadium in fbs. Nobody can convince Colorado State couldn't turn into an Iowa State, Kansas State or Oklahoma State
If it hadn’t happened in the Mountain West, it’s likely not happening in this version the Big 12.

More importantly, we’re not interested in turning someone local into another similar program. That’s actually bad for those in the Big 8. We need to add ones already basically there, but also with upside, in a new area. That’s why Cincy, UCF, and BYU are the top 3. Proven Inherent advantages that allow them to punch above their conference brand.

No G5’s in the current footprint can be added. That didn’t work even when we had OuT. Better to make Houston and SMU homeless than to give them an improved home.
 

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PAC-12 Grant of Rights expires on 2025. Oklahoma and Texas (as of now) are expected to honor the Big-12 GOR until 2025.

Before the OU & Texas to SEC new broke, the PAC-12 was the weakest power 5 conference. What's stopping the Big 12 from pouching PAC-12 schools if the Big-12 can guaranteed more money. Also, why shouldn't the Big-12 explore going beyond 10/12 teams and go to 16?

It appears BYU has been confirmed to "add value", so if you're heading west why stop at BYU. When the PAC-12 GoR expire say go hey (X,Y, & Z PAC-12 schools) come join us. On top of those 4 schools we're adding UCF, Cincinnati, Houston, & Memphis. I'd think this conference would bring more value than anything the PAC-12 can muster.
No current P4/5 is leaving a conference based on “we’re adding Memphis and Houston” too. Houston cannot be added.

Besides that, it’s because like all conferences most of the Pac12’s value is from a few programs. Unless they move, it’s a large downgrade for the other Pac12 schools to join the Big 8. Why would the big brands move? Adding the Big 12 schools would give them more Midwest exposure, MAYBE increasing things long term. But near term it’s probably a wash AT BEST. Why do that rather than jump to a P2, or just hold tight?
 

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I really don't understand the Memphis love, they do nothing for me. Low fan base, not good academics, worst football stadium in fbs. Nobody can convince Colorado State couldn't turn into an Iowa State, Kansas State or Oklahoma State

Have you ever been to a CSU game? I went to a game in 2002. They were ranked 16th in the country at the time. They announced something like 28,000 but it sure wasn't even that. Just a terrible atmosphere.

CSU ain't happening, and I like CSU, I followed them fairly closely when living in CO. But I can't express the extent to which they are a non-factor. No one cares, and no one will.
 

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I think it’s cute that people continue to take everything said about this by conference commissioners on face value.
Agreed. And it's equally cute that there are apparently some who believe Bowlsby is making statements in his own personal best interest, not necessarily the universities. As if he's gone rogue and forgotten who employs him.