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SEIOWA CLONE

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Every metric I have seen on this site shows Iowa State favoring well compared to other middling programs. The issue here is that those conferences have a blue blood. Adding Iowa State to any of those conferences does absolutely nothing for them. Outside of increased inventory, the Big 12 does nothing but dilute shares for other conferences. That is fairly obvious here. It doesn’t matter what our current record is or the most recent success we have had. This is about our university’s valuation to a conference and that valuation is not going to allow us to add money to any tv contract.

First there are NOT any blue blood programs that are willing and able to move, The ACC teams including ND are locked into their media deal for the next 14 years, so they are off the board. I rather doubt USC and Oregon want to move to the Big 10 by themselves and taking 4 to 6 teams from the league, destroys it, like the Big 12 has been destroyed.

I keep reading about the MEGA deal that the Big 10 is about to sign, if that is true, more money coming in, then how would signing 2 schools to the league, lower the amount of money each school would get? It would still be more than the $50 million they get now, it might not be as high as they would get without them, but no school will be getting less money than what they are now.
 
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I didn’t read the whole thread but it’s amazing to me that Notre Dame gets to just sit back, kick their feet up and ******* watch all of this go down.
 

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I don’t know, this new “news” doesn’t really move the needle for me in either direction. It’s interesting to me that so many of you are in an absolute **** storm panic about it.

Confirmation bias for the doom sayers looking to be right.
 

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Confirmation bias for the doom sayers looking to be right.
“WHY DONT THEY INCLUDE THE BIG 12?!”

Because the Big 12 is dead. It has been since the moment OU and UT officially announced they were leaving. You don’t include them the same reason you wouldn’t include your grandparent in hospice in the European vacation you’re planning in two years. But that doesn’t have any bearing at all on the fate of any of the schools (except maybe Baylor, they’re probably ****** no matter what).
 

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“WHY DONT THEY INCLUDE THE BIG 12?!”

Because the Big 12 is dead. It has been since the moment OU and UT officially announced they were leaving. You don’t include them the same reason you wouldn’t include your grandparent in hospice in the European vacation you’re planning in two years. But that doesn’t have any bearing at all on the fate of any of the schools (except maybe Baylor, they’re probably ****** no matter what).
Bingo.
 

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People freaking out need to chill. Remember, whatever information that reaches the public in this game is serving someone's agenda, not the actual truth. Not all of these conferences are going to want to stand pat forever.

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I am assuming that game will go away with the non-con full of PAC12/ACC games for Iowa.
Not sure it is as easy as that. Just like there is the ISUvIowa rivalry. There are other inter-conference rivals that probably prohibit a non-con schedule loaded up with Alliance games.

Florida v Florida State.
Georgia v GA Tech.
S. Carolina v Clemson.
Kentucky v Louisville.

An Alliance probably means a handful of high profile games between conferences and maybe one-offs between lower tier schools that could be put on Big10, Pac12 and ACC Network instead of those teams playing MAC, WAC or Sun Belt games.
 
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Totally this. People that think ISU is attractive to any other conference that matters is too drunk on cardinal and gold kool aid I'm afraid.

It doesn't matter at all that we're actually really good at football now. If that's what mattered, we'd have been invited to the SEC instead of Texas.

We add nothing monetarily to any conference for the most part. I was hoping the PAC would merge with the remaining Big 12 schools so they could play a bunch of games in the Central time zone.... I think that was our best chance.
Sheesh. I didn’t know one Athletic article meant it was a done deal. Slow down. This has all been going on for about a month now. No foregone conclusions can be made yet.
 

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Sheesh. I didn’t know one Athletic article meant it was a done deal. Slow down. This has all been going on for about a month now. No foregone conclusions can be made yet.
You’re talking to the dude that demands Manning be fired and that we’re going to lose the game if we don’t pick up a first down on the first drive of the game.
 
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I’m old, and I have seen Iowa State beat Oklahoma exactly 3 times in my life.

The two of those in the last 4 years have made me happier than any win over Iowa, even 1998

Yeah I'M not saying that...there's just still fans that are in 1995 when it comes to what they value for the program since winning a ****ing Fiesta Bowl apparently wasn't a big deal.
 

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Yep. The Big 12 is basically serving as an organization looking to find its members landing spots. That's basically the extent of their power. Other conferences will decide the landscape, and it makes sense to incorporate former Big 12 teams into it.

I guess that's where I'm sitting on this. When I see "ACC/Big 10/Pac 12 alliance" without the Big 12 included, I see that as the Big 12 is as good as carved up at this point, and that to me means ISU has a place in this as a member of one of these conferences, likely either with the Big 10 or Pac 12. And I'm totally fine with that. I'm not one of those that is stuck on the sanctity of the Big 12 or pining for the old days of the Big 8 (in fact I was still a Hawkeye fan back then). All I care about is the future relevance of ISU, and if that's as a member of the Big 10 or Pac 12, or hell, as a member of the ACC, more power to us.