I think it would be better to be an 11 seed rather than an 8,9, or 10. If you look at the brackets being a 11 seed you get to play a 6 and if you win you possibly play a 3 seed. All the 3 seeds are very beatable and then it gives you more time to gameplan for 2 seed if it happens that way. I know we still need to win some important games (OK & OSU) but if we ended up at the 11 seed that would be fine with me.
Bracket Seeding Liking 11 seed
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There is so much that could happen here in the next 2 weeks.
4 Games left and none of them will be easy.
3 teams are in the top 30 RPI
I wouldn't be shocked if we win out and a game or two in the conference tourney. That would get us a 4 or 5 seed.
But I wouldn't be shocked if we somehow lose 3-4 more games either and become left out.
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Most likey scenerio is we will do just enough to get a 8/9 seed. Win Round 1. Then play Duke in Greensboro.
4 Games left and none of them will be easy.
3 teams are in the top 30 RPI
I wouldn't be shocked if we win out and a game or two in the conference tourney. That would get us a 4 or 5 seed.
But I wouldn't be shocked if we somehow lose 3-4 more games either and become left out.
KU
@OU
OSU
@WVU
Most likey scenerio is we will do just enough to get a 8/9 seed. Win Round 1. Then play Duke in Greensboro.
I think at worst we split the remaining games but that could push us up to a 8-9 which is a difficult position to be in. Last year if we would have been anywhere else other than where we were having to play Kentucky it could have turned out to be a lot different outcome.
I certainly do not want to sweat out selection Sunday, or read four hundred bracketology articles in an attempt to read the tea leaves.
As balanced as this year appears to be, I'll take any seed. This thing is going to be wide open.
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I agree; there isn't an unbeatable team this year (for anyone).
I still hate having to play the #1 seed in the second round, though.
Thats the first time Ive ever heard someone contemplate the value of a lower seed over a higher. Particularly the 8/9. You might be some kind of uniquely brilliant basketball mind. What are your thoughts on whether to foul late in a game before the shot when ahead by 3?
Wow, you wake up on the wrong side this morning? The OP is just wanting to discuss seeding, no biggie.
Bank on this. Happens every time, we get matched up against the top ranked team that is peaking, as opposed to the one that is staggering to the finish. Duke in Greensboro is about standard procedure for ISU.
Two games left at Hilton against teams we almost beat on the road, extra time to prepare for Oklahoma on the road, and a trip to play an offensively challenged West Virginia. It's not an easy schedule by any means, but I think we can and should expect this team to win two of those four games. This ain't intramurals, brother.
To a certain extent. A lot of advancing to the sweet 16 is about matchups. Would you rather play Missouri and then Duke. Or would you rather play or Colorado St and then Arizona? The 2nd scenario is us as an 11th seed. I would rather see us as a 4-7 see though
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I think it will be hard to do any better than split the next two. If ISU can beat Kansas then they will spend the whole week being told how great they are and that they just punched their ticket. It will be hard to keep focused for a game against a team that they smoked a couple weeks ago.
If ISU loses to Kansas then I think the extra time prepping for OU could pay off.
I started a poll on it a week ago to see if anyone thought there was any strategy value to taking a lower seed to avoid the #1 seed in the second game.
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/165976-ncaa-tournament-would-you-rather.html
It only got about 50 votes and taking the 8/9 seed won, 57-43%.
Then again, too many people didn't read the post and took it to mean what should ISU do this year.
It was supposed to be just a generic strategy question.
This is correct. The seeds are very rarely WAY off and are usually an indicator of winning the first-round game. Let me shamelessly refer you to something I did last spring. I calculated the likelihood of the higher seed being upset in the first round based on every first round between 2000 and 2011.
The only oddity worth mentioning is that 7 seeds are actually less likely to be upset than 5's, 6's and 8's.
I think it depends on the year on whether or not I'd want a 8/9 or a 10 or 11 seed. If the number 1 seeds are absoultely stacked and there is a huge drop off between the 1's and 2's AND the 7-10 seeds are roughly even, I wouldn't mind a 10 seed. If the 1's and 2's are pretty similar, then I don't think it makes too much of a difference. I feel like this year is probably closer to the later with how the levels of competition is so bring on the higher seed.
Um I think this team has realized how this conferance goes, can't take one game off and no matter how great people say they are they can get beat any night. I don't understand how it would be hard to go better then .500 in the last 4 games. To me this team could win all of these games. Not saying it will happen but I don't see how you can pick a number and say "it will be hard to do better then this" based off how we have played all these teams in the past, especially the two better ones we almost took on the road.
