IF, which is a big if, that's true, that's on Coach to have a real heart-to-heart with him.
Burton's minutes
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IF, which is a big if, that's true, that's on Coach to have a real heart-to-heart with him.
I agree; it seemed to me watching it live that Burton was solid on defense. Our team doesn't create too many turnovers naturally and Burton did it pretty well. He also bodied up his bigger opponent several times and was quite physical.
I think Jameel's knee is still bothering him too. On that alley-oop Niang threw to him toward the end of the game, it just went off Jameel's fingertips. I don't think he's jumping or moving as well as he was prior to the injury.
Last season people ******* that McKay needed more PT. This year he is getting the PT and he is not as affective. Maybe the coaches know what they are doing with the rotation.
This is the key. Last year Mckay was a rim protector, not this year. And I don't think Nader even knows what help side defense is. The only person that helps is MT -- unfortunately, he is usually guarding their best shooter so they dish it to him for an easy jump shot.
Burton had 6 boards, 2 blocks and 1 steal in 16 minutes.
McKay had 4 boards, 2 blocks and 0 steals in 30 minutes.
Nader had 5 boards, 0 blocks and 0 steals in 38 minutes.
Niang is one of our best help defenders. That says a lot. When Georges wants to/isn't sucking wind, he's an above average defender.
If Prohm benches McKay and starts Burton there is legitimate chance that McKay will be so upset he either gives us absolutely nothing the rest of the season or, as threatened via twitter, shuts it down and thinks about himself for the rest of the year. Heck, he might even start doing that if Prohm started taking him out during the last few minutes of the game.
The funny thing is, he is averaging almost identical numbers per game in conference play this year as he was last year. The only 2 differences are shooting percentage us 51% as opposed to 58% and his minutes are up 5 minutes per game.
Overall, his numbers are up, but that is obviously due to lower competition in non-con.
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So you have insider info that the McKay suspension was due to Burton playing 16 minutes last game?
I think giving Burton the start will only help this team when McKay gets his act together and comes back stronger. The team will come together by March at it's strongest.
Burton will be more of an impact player (moreso than he already is) and will see more minutes even when McKay is back.
Burton will be more of an impact player (moreso than he already is) and will see more minutes even when McKay is back.
With McKay suspended it'll be interesting to see which happens first Burton fouls out or passes out.
Scoring and rebounding are fine but his blocks and steals are down. He is also turning the ball over much more, as you said, against worse competition overall, he's already turned the ball over more this year than last season.
Turnovers are up in conference play .2 per game. Blocks are down .4 per game. Steals are down .5 per game. Yes they are down but not astronomically and that can be attributed to playing 5 minutes more a game.
His win share and player efficiency rating are both 3rd behind only Monte and Georges, who are obviously our 2 best players.
Basically, what I am trying to say, is that he is the same player we had last year, peoples expectations just changed unfortunately and they became almost unrealistic and it seems like he has bought into his own hype. He just really needs to realize what he is on the court, a shot blocking, rebounding, athletic freak, who will get his points on ally-oops or put back dunks.
Also, I said overall his numbers are UP. You either read what I wrote incorrectly or are selectively taking what I said and skewing it out of context.
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I agree he needs more minutes, but cannot jump on his bandwagon yet until he plays harder all the time. He has some offensive skills, no doubt. But his defense is terrible, he does not even seem to know where to be half the time. Plus, with his mass and jumping ability he needs to be a better rebounder. Showed a little bit against WVU, but, he was not competing against any other cyclones for a rebound, only wv players. Defense and rebounding are effort things, I don't see it from him yet. One other thing.....given how he defends, he will foul out if given many more minutes; plus throw in a charge or two.
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A lot of truth in your post. We cannot guard against dribble penetration. That is a huge flaw in our team. When the first guy gets beat you are at tremendous disadvantage. They either drive to the hole, kick for the three or dish to the big guy. Leads to fouls, open shots and offensive rebounds. Tim Floyd always said the ability to dribble penetrate was the most critical skill in bb. I like the idea of us playing zone....but we are really bad at that too. Our woes focus on defense.
Is it not being able to defend or not being aggressive due to the bench situation. We cannot afford to get into foul trouble so a lot of shots are easier than they should be. McKay being hurt and a little psychotic hasn't helped. His presence is nothing compared to last spring. Some his fault and some his situation. Maybe a game or two off will get his knee situation a little better. One poster referenced the lob that Georges threw in the WVU game that McKay totally missed on. He doesn't have the mobility or quickness he has had. With that said and trying to get back to Burton, if Burton plays within the game and himself we will be okay. He has a tendency of trying too much like Nader.
