Then why release. And screw the SEC.
Besides, then Campbell will be smart like usual and list 30 players as doubtful, even ones who bent their finger back and took a rep off in practice to shake it off.
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Besides, then Campbell will be smart like usual and list 30 players as doubtful, even ones who bent their finger back and took a rep off in practice to shake it off.
They don’t have to right now. The Big 12 is not requiring schools to do it. I’m trying to point out that it’s not if, but when, the Big 12 and the rest of the conferences will implement this along with the SEC, Big 10, and MAC. It will be soon.
The Big 10 actually did it all of the last year and it sounds like no one here even knew about it. So maybe it’s not quite that bad of a thing that some are making it out to be.
I feel for Campbell on the injury disclosure issue. He knows his starter is down and he’s trying to coach up the backup to be ready. If he has to disclose the injury then the opposing coaches are going to gameplan to attack the backup. If accurate 2-deeps are enforced then the only solution will be to focus on quality depth and getting older. That’s always been a challenge at ISU. Look back to McCarney’s teams and his starters were good players but as soon as injuries happened the backups got destroyed.
That seems to be the best explanation why Heacock did not trot out the 4 man front.
See that’s where I don’t think it’s as big of deal as some have made it out to be. Every single team including ours, has dedicated personnel looking who is dressed and who isn’t in warmups. Any competent coaching staff can look 1 hour before the game and go “hey they have 2 OL and 2 LB we thought would start in street clothes” and begin to talk about the game plan.
What’s the difference if they have to disclose some injuries by rule on Friday afternoon and Saturday morning on an injury report?
It’s like some of you guys totally forget HIPAA.
No, it’s not the same as with the NFL.
Dumb question but can you expand on that? I’m not a legal expert by any means but simply having all athletes sign a waiver would handle all of that?
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It takes even the lousiest coach in the country 2 plays to realize we’re playing a backup at a position and attack it.
It's not. Saying questionable or out isn't a HIPAA violation. An NFL player would need to give consent to release the exact nature of an injury just like a college player would.
NFL injury release info is hard baked into the system there, through either individual player contracts or collective bargaining.
And it’s that way to better facilitate gambling.
Guess which way the NCAA isn’t going to go?
Considering 1 league has already been doing it for a year and 2 more will begin to in about a month, what exactly are you counter arguing here? It appears HIPAA is a non factor.
Gamblers need to know. The players are professionals now and should be treated as such IMO.
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I don't think it would be HIPAA, because that law applies to covered entities. Unless you are the party providing care or an insurance company, it doesn't really apply to you. For example, a reporter who finds out that an athlete had a medical procedure and discloses it wouldn't be a HIPAA violation. If it was revealed that they found out about it from a nurse who leaked it, the reporter STILL hasn't violated HIPAA. It's the nurse/hospital that did.
But the law that IS likely in play is FERPA, and that does apply to schools, allowing them to withhold information about a student from release. A lot of schools use it as a shield to avoid disclosing information about athlete status. They don't want to disclose anything that they don't have to, if for no other reason than to prevent their opponents from knowing exactly what's going on.
There are narrow exceptions in the statute. I don’t think making all college athletes waive their health privacy rights is one of them.
I apologize for getting so far off the main topic in the thread but many are acting like this is something that cannot happen or won’t happen.
I’ll leave it alone after this. It’s already happening.
I’ll leave it alone after this. It’s already happening.
People whining about injury disclosure either to more accurately handicap a game or so they can manage their own expectations going into a game is something else. The fact is that not disclosing injuries only helps ISU do the one thing we all should care the most about as fans, which is winning the game. I'm sure eventually the books will get their way and injury reports will be a requirement now that universities are going to pay the players, but it's not an advantage for ISU.
Quick Google and the injury report mandate in the NFL has been around since 1947. It had nothing to do with gambling.
I'm no legal expert but I highly doubt you could bake something in to a collective bargaining agreement that forces players to disclose their exact injury.
Again just giving a status or even saying 3 to 5 weeks for example is not a HIPAA violation. Saying so and so tore their ACL without so and so giving consent is.
Serverguy...It's LOSING...not loosing. Why is this still a thing. Damn.
lol how does it specifically help Iowa state if all teams are required to do it? You think because we have to say who is questionable to play the day before the game is going to hurt our chances against Kansas when they have to do the same thing?
This isn’t and wouldn’t be a deal where Iowa State just decides to do it. It would be dictated by the conference and all members would subject to fines if they do not abide.
