Campbell’s record in 1 score games vs FBS

Aduhbolu15

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So it’s ‘y’all’ in one post and ‘our’ and ‘we’ in the next post?…I think you’re a hok troll who was smart enough to catch your errors in your second post and change your pronouns to blend in accordingly.

Go away- ‘y’all’ lost your Super Bowl this year.
No I just don’t like blaming refs. I love my cyclones but understand we’re limited and refuse to blame refs when our players make mistakes too.
 
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Time to blow up this program. Can't win the close games, can't pay the refs the $ the Texas schools can, coach always looking for a new job, AD wants to build a palace and ruin tailgating experience, wrestling hasn't mattered since the 80's, etc.
Hate to hijack a thread but I haven't wrestled since the 70's. I did wrestle in an old timers tourney in the 80's so sounds about right!
 

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I'd believe that but your lips were moving.
OK. Which part(s) don’t you believe? a) we’ve lost a lot of close conference games lately, b) there are no bad teams in the Big 12, c) everyone in the Big 12 has a competent QB, d) we don’t get a break with games against crap teams like Rutgers, Northwestern or Nebraska. I apologize if those observations offended anyone on cyfan, especially Cyforce.
 

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It's not just the records, it's what's happened in those games and how they were lost that were the bigger issues.

Special teams has cost us several games and the refusal to properly address those issues are both maddening and perplexing. The other, as mentioned by another (possibly several posters), is the refusal to make adjustments for things that aren't working or waiting until halftime (when the hold is already dug) to execute them. Two consistent problems I've seen over the years are Manning' inability to devise passing plays that utilize multiple levels of the field, thus giving his QBs options when they are under duress. The other is sticking with the 3 man rush too frequently when it's proven to be 100 percent ineffective. Both were problems this past weekend and I didn't see much in the way of noticeable adjustments.

At some point Iowa State needs to be able to develop a line that can consistently perform above average. At times they are competent but too often they are not. It seems like most programs are able to do this in (at least spurts). Still waiting for our turn (thought Andrews was the answer but that's not looking promising right now).
 

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OK. Which part(s) don’t you believe? a) we’ve lost a lot of close conference games lately, b) there are no bad teams in the Big 12, c) everyone in the Big 12 has a competent QB, d) we don’t get a break with games against crap teams like Rutgers, Northwestern or Nebraska. I apologize if those observations offended anyone on cyfan, especially Cyforce.

I called you a liar because you denied you weren't looking forward to a loss to start this thread.

As for the post itself you're flawed because we don't blow close games to the contrary Heacock's ability to shut teams down in the second half feeds this fallacy. Many of our one score loses were two score deficits going into the final quarter. While many of our o e score leads entering the fourth became two score wins.
 
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I called you a liar because you denied you weren't looking forward to a loss to start this thread.

As for the post itself you're flawed because we don't blow close games to the contrary Heacock's ability to shut teams down in the second half feeds this fallacy. Many of our one score loses were two score deficits going into the final quarter. While many of our o e score leads entering the fourth became two score wins.
You are out of your mind. I’m not looking for a loss. I don’t recall your posting history but it’s clear from this thread that you are a major douche bag.
 

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I dont get this.

Would you rather lose the game by 30 or by 3.

We are losing some games, but we are close and are able to win most games we lose.

10 years ago we lost a lot of games by way more than 1 score, we got embarrassed off the field many times. Now we are competing coming up just short, having a bad drive to end or just a bad bounce and fall short, but had a chance to win down the stretch in most games.

This stat showed on here and on twitter is just misleading, we are winning more than we lose, and the ones we are losing is by less than 1 score. This of course sounds bad when you just look at the losses, but when you look at the overall picture, and look at what we looked like before, and what our losses used to look like it makes a big difference. How about we compare the number of losses, and then by how much each of those losses were by. Compared to what we used to be, how many losses we used to have, and by how much the normal loss used to be by.

If Texas wins 5 games by 30 pts, and we lose 5 games by 3 pts. Which is better? We both lost 5 games. But looking at it the way you are looking at it here, only us are making this stat, that we lost 5 games by 1 score or less. I would much rather be the team that is in the game competing right to the end, than the one getting blown out in every loss. But hey Bear had a good tweet that made us look bad with no context, so good for him.
 

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Bumping this thread because I’m more amazed now than I was then about the amount of blowback I received for an OP that was simply factual observation. Fast forward several weeks and we’re 0-5 in such games since with all kinds of folly along the way. Exactly what I feared given how every conference game is a toss up due to the competitive balance. I think the reverence to CMC blinded some people to what was happening.

There is no way out of this trend without a meaningful change in approach - coaching changes, offensive scheme, practice plans, in game decision making, some combination. We have the personnel and defensive coaching to have been 5-4 / 8-4 this season and headed to a good bowl game.
 

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Bumping this thread because I’m more amazed now than I was then about the amount of blowback I received for an OP that was simply factual observation. Fast forward several weeks and we’re 0-5 in such games since with all kinds of folly along the way. Exactly what I feared given how every conference game is a toss up due to the competitive balance. I think the reverence to CMC blinded some people to what was happening.

There is no way out of this trend without a meaningful change in approach - coaching changes, offensive scheme, practice plans, in game decision making, some combination. We have the personnel and defensive coaching to have been 5-4 / 8-4 this season and headed to a good bowl game.
People become more attached to familiar individuals and ideals than what is objectively happening.
 

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Bumping this thread because I’m more amazed now than I was then about the amount of blowback I received for an OP that was simply factual observation. Fast forward several weeks and we’re 0-5 in such games since with all kinds of folly along the way. Exactly what I feared given how every conference game is a toss up due to the competitive balance. I think the reverence to CMC blinded some people to what was happening.

There is no way out of this trend without a meaningful change in approach - coaching changes, offensive scheme, practice plans, in game decision making, some combination. We have the personnel and defensive coaching to have been 5-4 / 8-4 this season and headed to a good bowl game.
This. I'm 100% with you. I've been saying the same thing for awhile now. Just take solace and laugh at the morons who disagree with you.
 

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This. I'm 100% with you. I've been saying the same thing for awhile now. Just take solace and laugh at the morons who disagree with you.
CampbellBall is predictable and simplistic.

Teams know that we will NOT take chances in the red zone, and play defense accordingly.

They know CMC wants close games and will limit possessions.

The analytics other teams have on ISU now make defending us so easy.

Nobody wants to face the reality that other teams have fully adapted.
 

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CampbellBall is predictable and simplistic.

Teams know that we will NOT take chances in the red zone, and play defense accordingly.

They know CMC wants close games and will limit possessions.

The analytics other teams have on ISU now make defending us so easy.

Nobody wants to face the reality that other teams have fully adapted.
We were not even willing to take a chance on fourth down late in the fourth quarter with one time out left. A punt was simply raising the white flag and accepting the loss.

Consider this action for everyone defending CMC or thinking he just needs more time. We refused to take a chance when there was nothing to lose in taking that chance. Here are the decisions and outcomes:

Go for it on 4th down:
1. Fail to convert fourth down game is lost
2. Convert fourth down still have a chance to win the game

Punt:
1. Tech has control of the ball and clock and we have one time out left. Game is lost unless they literally hand us the ball back instead of taking a knee. I have only seen one single coach do that in the history of college football and he was not coaching TT last night.

Everyone defending CMC should really hammer the point it’s not about winning games it’s only about being out there. That’s where we are right now.