CBS: Matt Campbell poised to reemerge as hot coaching commodity after comeback win over Iowa

[RonBurgundy]

So…which of the two will Iowa hire to take over from Kirk?

I think Iowa would be lucky to land Klieman, and that would be bad news for us. A negative of Iowa coaches (Brain and Doyle) getting moved out is that KF has less opportunity to get one of his guys the job. They actually might get lucky with an outside hire. Parker is a great coach, but too old to want it. He will go out with KF.

Hopefully KF stays another 5 years and really runs the program into the ground, ala Hayden.

 

[cydsho]

Florida wants him. But he’s got Ole Miss in a fine spot. Why leave?

It's the SEC, they trade coaches more than keys at a swingers party.

 

[Marcelason78]

is this an off season thread?

Close, bye week thread.

 

[exCyDing]

So…which of the two will Iowa hire to take over from Kirk?

Something tells me Iowa's more likely to have a HC in waiting on staff rather than rip & replace. Sure, maybe Kirk gets pushed out at the end, but after ~50 years the "bUt CoNtInUiTy Is DoInG iT tHe RiGhT wAy" voices will be loud.

 

[Aclone]

Something tells me Iowa's more likely to have a HC in waiting on staff rather than rip & replace. Sure, maybe Kirk gets pushed out at the end, but after ~50 years the "bUt CoNtInUiTy Is DoInG iT tHe RiGhT wAy" voices will be loud.

I dn’t think he gets pushed out. I mean, they’re not bothering to push Fran out when they should.

What I’m thinking is that he retires, and he’s only sticking around this year (and maybe next) in defiance for Brian being pushed out.

In house would have to be Parker, who would just be a bridge to a younger coach without as much tenure—like that new OC, if he pans out (I.e., can recruit an actual QB).

 

[exCyDing]

I dn’t think he gets pushed out. I mean, they’re not bothering to push Fran out when they should.

What I’m thinking is that he retires, and he’s only sticking around this year (and maybe next) in defiance for Brian being pushed out.

In house would have to be Parker, who would just be a bridge to a younger coach without as much tenure—like that new OC, if he pans out (I.e., can recruit an actual QB).

The Ferentz family as all about the $$, they've proven it repeatedly. There's no way he willingly walks away with 5 years left, and I'm not sure Iowa has the cash to swing the buyout right now, particularly coming off a 10 win season.

 

[DFWClone]

If we’re being honest, all 3 jobs (Michigan, OSU, and ND) could be open at the end of this year. The boosters making decisions have zero patience.

Ryan Day could easily get fired if OSU has an early exit from the playoffs or god forbid, doesn’t make the playoff or loses to Michigan (with how Michigan looked on Saturday, doubt that happens).

If Freeman loses another game and ND misses the playoff, I’d expect him to get fired.

Based off of the way Michigan looked on Saturday and how their schedule plays out, I’d expect Michigan to move on from Moore rather quickly.

Those are probably the only jobs CMC leaves ISU for but idk if they would necessarily hire him. Not sure if he’s going to be a flashy enough name for the fan bases of those schools.

 

[CysFive]

OSU and Michigan both could be open, neither would have CMC on their lists though. OSU is not hiring a defensive minded coach that doesn’t take advantage of their offensive talent pipeline. Michigan won’t hire a non Michigan Man with no real connection to the program.

ND is a possibility but CMC would have to have an absolutely dominant year including a playoff win to be considered there. Very possible but if he’s able to get a playoff win at ISU with no pressure there isn’t much reason to leave. Especially since he likes it in Ames.

Campbell came through the ranks as an offensive coach, fwiw, but I agree in that I don't see them implementing a ball control offense. But I also see Campbell as fairly flexible schematically. Whether by necessity or choice, the offense has moved more to explosive plays than efficiency since Purdy and several NFL running backs and tight ends graduated and our best skill talent became wide receivers. The offense changes with the personnel. If he had OSU's weapons I'm sure he'd utilize them. That said, OSU doesn't spring to mind as a "culture" program fit.

In any case, I hope he's happy in Ames.

 

[cyfanatic]

I don’t know if kiffin would leave ol miss either.

Kiffin at ND would be AWESOME! It would be entertaining as heck!

 

[BMWallace]

If we’re being honest, all 3 jobs (Michigan, OSU, and ND) could be open at the end of this year. The boosters making decisions have zero patience.

Ryan Day could easily get fired if OSU has an early exit from the playoffs or god forbid, doesn’t make the playoff or loses to Michigan (with how Michigan looked on Saturday, doubt that happens).

If Freeman loses another game and ND misses the playoff, I’d expect him to get fired.

Based off of the way Michigan looked on Saturday and how their schedule plays out, I’d expect Michigan to move on from Moore rather quickly.

Those are probably the only jobs CMC leaves ISU for but idk if they would necessarily hire him. Not sure if he’s going to be a flashy enough name for the fan bases of those schools.

The only other wild card opening I would worry about is Kentucky. Stoops has had his eyes elsewhere the last few years, and the loss to South Carolina on Saturday looked really bad. That and the way Stoops and Coach Cal were feuding in the press last year makes me think his seat is hotter that most think.

For Campbell, Kentucky would be able to offer a similar job profile to Iowa State, just with better history and resources. It's also closer to home for the Campbell family. And the folks in Lexington have shown a willingness to be patient and allow the football team to be a developmental program.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

"Finally beating Iowa gives Campbell the marquee win he desperately needed to make both himself and his program nationally relevant again."

If I were to try to troll our fanbase, I would probably type those exact words.

What a ridiculous article. I'm ashamed I gave it a click.

 

[Pat]

The Ferentz family as all about the $$, they've proven it repeatedly. There's no way he willingly walks away with 5 years left, and I'm not sure Iowa has the cash to swing the buyout right now, particularly coming off a 10 win season.

Don’t underestimate legacy/ego. If he gets to 8 wins this year, that puts his winning percentage at exactly .600, and he’s HOF eligible. He would need 8 wins each year (including bowls) to maintain, and the schedule isn’t getting any easier. I do think there’s a chance that this is his last year.

 

[Drew0311]

I still don't see a big school fan base being Ok with him. Even if he does do a good job coaching Iowa State. Like Notre Dame to try and sell him to the fan base after having two bad years in a row. I guess last year was different. They want a coach that went 11-1 at like Boise or something. Not Campbell. Not that he is a bad coach at all. Just show me one coach that moved into a huge job after the last few years Matt has had.

 

[alarson]

I’m only worried about Campbell leaving to go to OSU, Michigan, or ND. OSU and Michigan won’t be open. ND could be a bit scary, but I doubt those guys are too excited about a .500 coach from Iowa State, even if Campbell does have a great year this year.

Yep. We can all appreciate the success he's had here, but he won't excite a lot of boosters at those places that have high level expectations

Honestly unless we have an absolutely huge year (ie playoffs), I think 2021 probably did the biggest damage to his cause if he did have desire to 'upgrade' to a consistent contender. Before then the sell to boosters could be "well, he's at Iowa State, imagine what he could be with our talent". But then we go into 2021 with a high level of talent and the top 10 expectations to go with it, and limp into 7-6.

 

[aeroclone]

Yep. We can all appreciate the success he's had here, but he won't excite a lot of boosters at those places that have high level expectations

Honestly unless we have an absolutely huge year (ie playoffs), I think 2021 probably did the biggest damage to his cause if he did have desire to 'upgrade' to a consistent contender. Before then the sell to boosters could be "well, he's at Iowa State, imagine what he could be with our talent". But then we go into 2021 with a high level of talent and the top 10 expectations to go with it, and limp into 7-6.

I agree with this. I think he missed his window a few years ago if jumping to a high profile job was what he wanted. But I also think that for who Matt is and how he wants to build a program he has what he wants here and isn't interested in leaving.

 

[aeroclone]

The only other wild card opening I would worry about is Kentucky. Stoops has had his eyes elsewhere the last few years, and the loss to South Carolina on Saturday looked really bad. That and the way Stoops and Coach Cal were feuding in the press last year makes me think his seat is hotter that most think.

For Campbell, Kentucky would be able to offer a similar job profile to Iowa State, just with better history and resources. It's also closer to home for the Campbell family. And the folks in Lexington have shown a willingness to be patient and allow the football team to be a developmental program.

I'd really be interested to know how CMC feels about proximity to home. He has been here for 9 years now. From my experience the draw of home starts to fade with time. The home that you are remember isn't what that place is anymore, so the level of appeal of going back changes.

CMC is at the point where he has raised his kids here, built his career here, earned a small fortune here, and is on his way to creating a legacy here. Ames may be starting to feel a lot like home to him by now.

 

[ISU_Guy]

It's the SEC, they trade coaches more than keys at a swingers party.

this couldn't be better stated! if you don't win 10-12 games or make the playoffs in the SEC then you go BYE BYE in 2 years. They just don't care.

getting to the playoffs is still not going to be easy in the SEC/BIG. basically 7-8 teams competing for 3-4 spots. the more blue bloods they add to these league, the more challenging its going to be to finish top 3-4 consistently. which means constant turnover of coaches.

 

[ClubCy]

I still don't see a big school fan base being Ok with him. Even if he does do a good job coaching Iowa State. Like Notre Dame to try and sell him to the fan base after having two bad years in a row. I guess last year was different. They want a coach that went 11-1 at like Boise or something. Not Campbell. Not that he is a bad coach at all. Just show me one coach that moved into a huge job after the last few years Matt has had.

Yeah, people often underestimate how the hire itself isn’t the only thing that matters for these blue bloods, it’s appeasing the fanbase and more importantly, the big donors. Hell, Bama fans were pissed and donors threatened to pull donations because Keon Deboer wasn’t a sexy name and had never recruited the south. Despite having a record of 104-12 and being a week removed from losing in the National Championship game. Unless we go something like 11-1 and make a little noise in the playoff CMC name is still not a sexy name at the moment.

 

[intrepid27]

OSU and Michigan both could be open, neither would have CMC on their lists though. OSU is not hiring a defensive minded coach that doesn’t take advantage of their offensive talent pipeline. Michigan won’t hire a non Michigan Man with no real connection to the program.

ND is a possibility but CMC would have to have an absolutely dominant year including a playoff win to be considered there. Very possible but if he’s able to get a playoff win at ISU with no pressure there isn’t much reason to leave. Especially since he likes it in Ames.

Isn't Michigan's coach (Sherrone Moore) in his first full year as head coach? I doubt that even Michigan would fire a coach year one into his contract. Which tells me how much thought the CBS Sports writer put into his article.

 

[MugNight]

Isn't Michigan's coach (Sherrone Moore) in his first full year as head coach? I doubt that even Michigan would fire a coach year one into his contract. Which tells me how much thought the CBS Sports writer put into his article.

Moore doesn’t technically have a contract at this point. I agree though, he will get a few years unless they have a catastrophic collapse from here on out