CFP Expanding to 12 Teams

JHUNSY

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What's coming next (and very quickly, I'd guess) is the elimination of the bye for conference champs. The moment a Big 12 team is seeded higher than Bama/UGA/Texas/Tennessee/Ohio State/Penn State/etc the media folk will be up in arms about it.

Conference champion autobids, as a whole, will likely last a while as that's a fairly easy way to stop G5 conferences from suing over the whole thing.
People are already up in arms about an Iowa State team getting a bye as the 4 seed in hypothetical brackets and we’re not even in October of the new system’s first year..
 
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Not even one whole year into the new system. And in case anyone wasn’t sure, the rich are still getting greedier:


Honestly, I’d get behind it if the Big 12 gets a second bid. A 14 team format with 4 SEC, 4 B1G, 2 B12, 2 ACC, 1 G5, 1 Notre Dame/ at large was floated about last year.

I wouldn’t mind getting rid of subjectivity/committee bias while cementing our status as a multi-bid league.
 

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On field performance and metrics no longer seem to matter. But we’ve known this all along, when the selection committee started changing criteria to fit their narrative.

The “datapoints” don’t even matter when you’re comparing apples to oranges. 8 or 9 “power” games from an SEC team to 9 or 10 for the others. A solid “power” win in November isn’t enough quality to surpass an SEC FCS cupcake. And of course, let’s **** on the Big 12 when they do that in the basketball season, but SEC football gets a pass.

We were told winning your conference matters, but obviously 13-14 SEC teams and 16-17 Big 10 teams don’t want left out. And the conferences are so large now that it’s not possible to do round robin, so there’s a large swing in strength of schedule comparisons from one school to the next.

This isn’t a playoff, it’s an invitational. Let’s just call it that.

I can already hear Herbstreit in his douchey voice with his punchable face talking about how it is unfair that a 9-3 Penn State team didn't get in over a 11-1 Big 12 school and how unreasonable it is that Iowa State gets a bye while Big Ten and SEC schools have to play an extra game because they "earned it."
 

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The goal of the SEC/Big 10 is to have a 12 team playoff where the ACC, Big 12, and non power 4 leagues each get one (so they don't get sued) and they are guaranteed 8. Leaving the last spot for ND or another at large. Then start scheduling at least 2 of their out of conference games against the other conference to maximize their TV value. They'd also take away some of the risk of losing a tough non-conference game because getting in the top 4 in their conference is all that matters for the playoffs.
 

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The goal of the SEC/Big 10 is to have a 12 team playoff where the ACC, Big 12, and non power 4 leagues each get one (so they don't get sued) and they are guaranteed 8. Leaving the last spot for ND or another at large. Then start scheduling at least 2 of their out of conference games against the other conference to maximize their TV value. They'd also take away some of the risk of losing a tough non-conference game because getting in the top 4 in their conference is all that matters for the playoffs.
100%.

The 2031 TV renewal is going to lock the Big Ten/SEC into 11 games. They'll have one to schedule on their own and those two leagues can spend all of September putting together made for TV matchups.

The Big 12 and ACC (what's left of it anyway) aren't even going to have access to playing those teams during the regular season.
 

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Jesus they can't stop to evaluate and breathe before trying to steal more pie from everyone else.
The bodys still warm on re-alignment and the 12 team playoff change. We haven't had one full season with all these changes.
Cuz they are greedy m'fckrs. At some point I don't care what it is you can kill the golden goose.
 

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The goal of the SEC/Big 10 is to have a 12 team playoff where the ACC, Big 12, and non power 4 leagues each get one (so they don't get sued) and they are guaranteed 8. Leaving the last spot for ND or another at large. Then start scheduling at least 2 of their out of conference games against the other conference to maximize their TV value. They'd also take away some of the risk of losing a tough non-conference game because getting in the top 4 in their conference is all that matters for the playoffs.
Playoff is already expanding to 14 that’s where the bid adjustment was coming from. Also it was already pitched for the Big12 and ACC to get two auto bids. Many people on here hated that as they thought the Big12 could get more then two teams in regularly.
 

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Playoff is already expanding to 14 that’s where the bid adjustment was coming from. Also it was already pitched for the Big12 and ACC to get two auto bids. Many people on here hated that as they thought the Big12 could get more then two teams in regularly.
They already get 2 automatic it's not in writing but let's be honest

Georgia and Bama have 2 bids locked up.
They will now get 4 or 5 and maybe they are deserving.

It's just another way to expand the piece of the pie.

If Big 12 gets 2 auto okay, but don't trust these 2 conferences.

Honestly I wish the just install 1 college football commissioner and move things to an NFL model. Players unionize and let's go from there.
 

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Playoff is already expanding to 14 that’s where the bid adjustment was coming from. Also it was already pitched for the Big12 and ACC to get two auto bids. Many people on here hated that as they thought the Big12 could get more then two teams in regularly.
Its telling that it seemed all but done last spring then very little reporting since. The Big 10 and SEC don't want to give up any more auto bids than the 3 they already have.
 

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Playoff is already expanding to 14 that’s where the bid adjustment was coming from. Also it was already pitched for the Big12 and ACC to get two auto bids. Many people on here hated that as they thought the Big12 could get more then two teams in regularly.
Between the SEC and Big 10, they have 40 teams. If they want to schedule together. They should just create four 10 team pods. Let the winner of each round-robin plus two wild cards make it.

If they force Notre Dame and two others into the ACC…and then bring four more into the Big 12, they could have another 6 teams.

Give two more bids to the remaining leagues/teams, and there’s your 14. The SEC and Big 10 probably wouldn’t like this, but this seems like the best way to keep the whole country interested.
 

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I'm kind of to the point where the Big 10 and SEC can just go do their own thing and let everyone else do something else. It is already getting so lopsided with the haves and have nots. I think the Big 10 and SEC won't like it so much when they can't all win and something has to give.
 

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Duh!
“That lady”, her name is Heather Dinech, and is probably one of most respected football writers in America. Do you guys just say stuff to say stuff if you don’t like what’s being said?
She showed her hand though when publicly delighted when the big10 finally started playing games during Covid. She said something along the lines of not having to watch Oklahoma State play. Okie State has been one of the most successful teams in the last 10+ years, yet got not respect and called out. She can eff off.
 

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Start making peace that Texas, Alabama, and UGA will be in this season’s playoff. Ole Miss, LSU, Tennessee, and Mizzou are lurking in the Top 15 for a 4th or 5th spot from the SEC. Some of them play each other, but any loss will be considered a quality one.
 

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Why on earth would the Big 12 want to expand and take the ACC leftovers after the bones are picked? Why slice your pie into even more pieces when you've got giant expenses coming at you in short order and the brands that you would have access to are revenue neutral, at best.
 

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Honestly, I’d get behind it if the Big 12 gets a second bid. A 14 team format with 4 SEC, 4 B1G, 2 B12, 2 ACC, 1 G5, 1 Notre Dame/ at large was floated about last year.

I wouldn’t mind getting rid of subjectivity/committee bias while cementing our status as a multi-bid league.
This would at least be stomachable, but what happens when the Big 12 or ACC does have a crazy season where 3 or 4 teams are clearly worthy and the Big Ten in particular has only Ohio State and one other that is really worth a beans. Because that’s happened many times where the Big Ten or SEC doesn’t have four teams worth it imo.
 

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It’s telling that it seemed all but done last spring then very little reporting since. The Big 10 and SEC don't want to give up any more auto bids than the 3 they already have.
Well they couldn’t agree last spring due to the auto bid request. Don’t think they have met very much between then as a group
 

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