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CyArkie

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Where was Hoiberg's time outs? With less than 2 minutes left in overtime and Iowa State steadily down 10 points, then comes the first timeout with 3 timeouts left? Amazing!!! The players needed the help that coaching can offer if they do not wait till the overtime is 3/5's over. Could not believe Fred did not calm them down early in the overtime. Like he was just watching the game with the rest of us.
 

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Where was Hoiberg's time outs? With less than 2 minutes left in overtime and Iowa State steadily down 10 points, then comes the first timeout with 3 timeouts left? Amazing!!! The players needed the help that coaching can offer if they do not wait till the overtime is 3/5's over. Could not believe Fred did not calm them down early in the overtime. Like he was just watching the game with the rest of us.

The only timeout that needed to be called was after KL's 2nd made FT with 10 secs left. Those last 10 seconds COULD have been a program changer. They were HUGE. But Fred didn't call a timeout. Didn't see the need to I guess? Just let the players "wing it" for perhaps the most important 10 seconds of the entire season. Just stand there and watch the guy that was on fire all night send it into OT. Yes it was a prayer, but it never should have even had a chance of being answered by the KU basketball gods.
 

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Hoiberg's philosophy is to let the players work through it themselves. Especially this early in the season I can't say that I disagree with that. I think a team develops better over time if they have a coach that doesn't use time outs extremely often.
 
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Hoiberg's philosophy is to let the players work through it themselves. Especially this early in the season I can't say that I disagree with that. I think a team develops better over time if they have a coach that doesn't use time outs extremely often.
Winning with no time outs >>>> Losing with 3 timeouts. Teams develop better when they're coached. You can't use timeouts "Extremely often" in basketball. You only get 5.
 

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Winning with no time outs >>>> Losing with 3 timeouts. Teams develop better when they're coached. You can't use timeouts "Extremely often" in basketball. You only get 5.

It's all about philosophy though, that's why he didn't use all his during regulation either. If he thinks not using them is best, then that's what he has to do, and that's what he did tonight. He also wanted a lot for the last minute of the game, in the hope that we would still be in the game then.
 

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Why call a timeouts. The pressure was on KU, dont give them time to regroup.
 

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The only timeout that needed to be called was after KL's 2nd made FT with 10 secs left. Those last 10 seconds COULD have been a program changer. They were HUGE. But Fred didn't call a timeout. Didn't see the need to I guess? Just let the players "wing it" for perhaps the most important 10 seconds of the entire season. Just stand there and watch the guy that was on fire all night send it into OT. Yes it was a prayer, but it never should have even had a chance of being answered by the KU basketball gods.

Yeah it would have been brilliant to call a timeout and give KU a chance to set up a play down 3 when they were out of timeouts...surprised Fred didn't think of that
 
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Yeah it would have been brilliant to call a timeout and give KU a chance to set up a play down 3 when they were out of timeouts...surprised Fred didn't think of that

Actually would have been a good time out. You get the players set on defense and make sure you inform the team you will give up the two points and for no reason should any player go past the three point line. McGee went all the way in the lane opening up the shot. Had he been at the 3 point line the shot attempt would have been from at least 25 feet and a win for ISU.
 

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Actually would have been a good time out. You get the players set on defense and make sure you inform the team you will give up the two points and for no reason should any player go past the three point line. McGee went all the way in the lane opening up the shot. Had he been at the 3 point line the shot attempt would have been from at least 25 feet and a win for ISU.


Yes lets give one of the best coaches in the country time to sit down with his team to draw up a play.

The players were fine on D, KU player made a hard shot.
 

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3/4 of the time 8 second defense beats 8 second offense with no chance to draw something up...I'll take my chances with how we played it

Actually would have been a good time out. You get the players set on defense and make sure you inform the team you will give up the two points and for no reason should any player go past the three point line. McGee went all the way in the lane opening up the shot. Had he been at the 3 point line the shot attempt would have been from at least 25 feet and a win for ISU.
 

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The reaction is predictable but hilarious. KU got off a contested 3 that banked in at the end of the game, and somehow that's seen as a terrible coaching error. Sometimes crazy shots just go in.
 
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I would rather Fred use his timeouts like Scott Drew. Burn all those suckers right after halftime!!
 
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I'm not sure what Fred could have done that we didn't do, other than KL missing the front end of a 1 and 1. Things worked out the way most coaches would want. Their guy just banked in a prayer 3.
 
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Where was Hoiberg's time outs? With less than 2 minutes left in overtime and Iowa State steadily down 10 points, then comes the first timeout with 3 timeouts left? Amazing!!! The players needed the help that coaching can offer if they do not wait till the overtime is 3/5's over. Could not believe Fred did not calm them down early in the overtime. Like he was just watching the game with the rest of us.

Back to the original point of this thread, I hadn't really thought about this, I was just too mad about it even getting to OT and was already writing it off as a loss. I kind of agree, after those first couple of quick scores in OT by Kansas it would seemingly have been a good time to pull everyone aside and tell them to pull their head's out.
 

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Where was Hoiberg's time outs? With less than 2 minutes left in overtime and Iowa State steadily down 10 points, then comes the first timeout with 3 timeouts left? Amazing!!! The players needed the help that coaching can offer if they do not wait till the overtime is 3/5's over. Could not believe Fred did not calm them down early in the overtime. Like he was just watching the game with the rest of us.

Paul Janssen would have called a double technical on the ISU bench and Eric Heft had The Mayor tried to call a TO in that situation.