Colorado and Oregon legalize Marijuana?

Show Iowa legalize marijuana?

  • Yes

    Votes: 130 76.0%
  • No

    Votes: 41 24.0%

  • Total voters
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tyler24

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I see on CNN Oregon and Colorado have decided to legalize marijuana to people over 21. Got me thinking, do you think marijuana should be legal in Iowa?
 

ISUCubswin

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I see on CNN Oregon and Colorado have decided to legalize marijuana to people over 21. Got me thinking, do you think marijuana should be legal in Iowa?

All I know is recruiting just got a lot easier for school in Washington and Colorado.
 

alarson

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I'm pretty sure this doesn't change Federal law.

But the vast majority of enforcement is done at the state\local level. If it is legal at the state level, it will not be enforced nearly to the same degree.
 

ISU_phoria

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I'm pretty sure this doesn't change Federal law.


Just saw a show on TV about this (20/20, 60 minutes or similar). You're correct, the states that have legalized marijuana (medical or otherwise) are still in violation of Federal law and could potentially be at big risk relative to that.

But, for now, the federal government has essentially decided to "look the other way" and have concluded there are much more important issues to spend their time/efforts on.

An "expert" on the issue said that at some point, however, the two (state and federal law) need to be reconciled or there will come a time/day where a big reckoning will occur.
 

tyler24

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I watched a documentary on netflix called The Union or something like that about marijuana and it just blew my mind on the stuff. Initially I would not have cared if it was illegal but after watching that, I believe the stuff should be legal. I definitely recommended watching it to anyone who is interested in this kind of stuff.
 
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isukendall

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There's a lot of info out there in news articles, but the main points are that CO state government is going to have to have a long discussion with the DEA on how this will be handled within the state, but on a Federal level. Technically it could be brought to the Supreme Court and repealed, but word is that this won't happen since most politicians want to avoid being the guy who reversed something passed by a popular vote. As far as NCAA, jobs, etc. it is still the right of your employer to disallow drug use, and I'm sure many of them still will. Eventually it will get to Iowa, but it will take time. This is almost exactly what happened during the end of alcohol prohibition - it doesn't happen overnight, but starts somewhere. I think it's an incredible opportunity to spend less fighting it and bring in a ton of tax revenue, and assuming this goes well and people realize it's not a big deal, I think other states will follow suit with the money swing being a huge factor.
 

DurangoCy

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This should be interesting to see how it evolves. I believe you can have 6 weed plants legally, so I think every college kid that smokes will have them growing by tomorrow. I doubt the economic gains based on tax revenues are going to be realized in the short term, but the cost savings on enforcement alone should be significant.

Lot's of this going on today I bet...
4/20 Parachute Stoner Dash [STABILIZED] - YouTube
 

VeloClone

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But the vast majority of enforcement is done at the state\local level. If it is legal at the state level, it will not be enforced nearly to the same degree.

Be that as it may, it certainly is enough of a concern that I would think twice before openly selling, buying or using in those states.
 

Cychotiic

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If your educated on the topic there is literally no counter argument. As someone said, the union is a great film on the subject that approaches the topic from all angles
 

Cychotiic

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Oh and btw it was Washington and Colorado. However with Washington if you have any cannabis metabolites in you're blood you can't drive or you'll get a dui. So basically if you smoke, you risk getting a dui for the next two Weeks if you drive. So that definitely needs done work
 

DurangoCy

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Be that as it may, it certainly is enough of a concern that I would think twice before openly selling, buying or using in those states.


Per the bill you can have 1oz on you, 6 mature plants, and you can only gift weed. There are provisions for the state/local governments to set up regulations for commercial sellers. If not done in conjuction with the Feds, I assume someone will start a huge growing/distribution system on the internet based in CO, make millions shipping it everywhere in the US, and end being prosecuted by Uncle Sam within 5 years. (a lot like the online gambling that they shut down last year)
 

CYKOFAN

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I can see both sides on legalizing all marijuana use, but for Iowa not to legalize medical marijuana is outright cruel.
 

Rabbuk

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Can police take a blood sample based on just reasonable suspicion? Seems like it would face more scrutiny than police swabbing your cheek for DNA. Which is a hotly contested issue.
 

jaretac

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The federal government has no purview on this issue, whether it thinks it does or not.

And hell yes, legalize it and let's spend our wealth fighting real issues.

But the vast majority of enforcement is done at the state\local level. If it is legal at the state level, it will not be enforced nearly to the same degree.

It brings up a lot of issues though. For example, federal low income housing. The federal government oversees operations of such housing and has to comply with federal laws. Federal law says no, state law says yes. The federal government says that use or possession of marijuana is a federal offence and such people are subject to eviction. But if those evictions would go though local courts in most cases in which if they rule in favor of the state law puts the landlords in a difficult position.

Same goes for any federal lands or anyone that works for the federal government. I know Iowa doesn't have much for federal lands but Oregon and Colorado and Washington (who BTW also voted to legalize it) all have 50% or more of the state land area owned by the federal government in the way of BLM, Forest Service and military lands. Also if you work for the federal government and live in one of those states, you can be fired for participating in your own time in consumption of the product that is allowed by the state.

And what about big employers (such as walmart)? Can they legally turn someone down for employment for failing a drug test in those states?
 
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