Cy-Hawk Football / For or Against

The future of the Cy-hawk football game


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chrishull14

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Should it continue?
  1. Cy-Hawk forever!
  2. Maybe every other year
  3. Keep it for now, reevaluate every 6-10 years
  4. Divorce: irreconsilable differences
 

Kyle

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Economically great for both schools, and so much fun.
 

ISUFan22

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Someone is quite welcome to post the beating dead horse .gif after what I'm saying here - as I've said it a few times this week...

The loss of the ISU-Iowa game would leave a void for both programs/fans that no other team they can schedule could replace.
 

bos

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Lets try something different. Some history maybe.

Beating a dead horse is an idiom which means a particular request or line of conversation is already foreclosed, mooted, or otherwise resolved, and any attempt to continue it is futile. In British English, the phrase is usually rendered as flogging a dead horse
The first recorded use of the expression with its modern meaning is by British politician and orator John Bright, referring to the Reform Bill of 1867, which called for more democratic representation in Parliament, and which Parliament was singularly apathetic about. Trying to rouse Parliament from its apathy on the issue, he said in a speech, would be like trying to flog a dead horse to make it pull a load. The Oxford English Dictionary cites the Globe, 1872, as the earliest verifiable use of flogging a dead horse.
 
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chrishull14

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I think the Cy-hawk series is just as much, if not more, about the people of this state as it is about the teams on field. It is about the kids growing up who are just learning how great sports are. It is about inspiring Iowa high school athletes. It is about bragging rights. It is about the retired folks at the coffee shop. It is about the farmer listening out in the field on the radio. It is about all of the alumni spread out all over the world.
Traditionally, around the NCAA, rivalry week is later in the year. A few years back, because of the unfortunate happenings on 9/11, we played at the end of the year. That game was very intense, and had a whole year of build up. The main reasons for not keeping "The Big Game" at the end of the year was the fans. Tailgating is better earlier in the year with a better chance of good weather. Another reason was for the teams. Ultimately, the AD's at both schools want both teams to be successful. Playing at the start of the season gives the losing team a chance to bounce back and still reach their goals for the year.
 

cyclonedave25

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The ISU/UI game is great. The atmosphere is awesome inside and outside the stadium. This is one of the games i always look forward to.
 

CHim

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I think it should continue, but some fans or the media should be muzzled.
 

Drive4cy

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People on both sides would miss playing this game. Although as a fan, I'm almost happy when this game is over for the year. I'm not sure why I feel that way, but I do.
 

Cyclone62

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Although as a fan, I'm almost happy when this game is over for the year. I'm not sure why I feel that way, but I do.

I feel the same way for some reason. In a way, I would rather ditch the football game, and keep the rest of 'em. The football game is the only one that, for some reason, hawkeye fans feel entitled to a natural win. I don't hear the "All to lose, nothing to gain" argument for any other sport. Even though one game could cost a team an NCAA berth.
 

storminspank

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As a Hawk fan, I like the series. The financial issues are beginning to skew some people's opinion. Both fan bases would be worse off without this series. It's nice to have an ongoing rivalry where each side despises one another. That's just a good rivalry. I couldn't imagine FSU not playing Florida, Alabama vs. Auburn, Miami vs. FSU, Georgia vs. GT, etc... rivalries are awesome, esp. in-state rivalries.

Hopefully the financial issues get resolved and fans can just focus the game itself.
 

'Clones Fan

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As someone who hates iowa and everything they stand for, I love the series. There isn't anything sports wise that has given me the joy that I feel watching us beat iowa.
 

brianhos

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It is all just pen*s jousting, barta wants to prove he actually has one, so he is going to stand up to pollard for a second. And then he is going to realize he needs this series just as bad as ISU does, and they will make a deal. This series is not going away. The only way it ever stops is if ISU joins the big10 or Iowa joins the big 12 south.
 

jdoggivjc

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The football game is the only one that, for some reason, hawkeye fans feel entitled to a natural win.

15 straight wins will do that to a fan base, even though that run ended almost a decade ago and we've won 66% (6/9) of the matchups since then, including running off 5 straight. That's why the rivalry's become so particularly nasty - we've put question into that mental thought of entitlement and superiority - something they've proven they can't handle well.
 

CloneyDog

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What's the deal with those Hawk fans that want to drop the series? Are they embarrassed to be Iowans? Seems they want nothing to do with the rest of the state.
 

cyingreen

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It's a great series. It seems like the only ones who want to scrap it are those who think they have more to lose than gain. A very narrow view. Do those folks seriously think they can replace an Iowa or ISU with a N.E. Louisiana or Ball State and have the same kind of fan excitement? My only suggestion would be that it be played at the end of the year. I know ui always said they couldn't play a non-conference game at season's end, but I believe they are doing it this year. A bad season could be redeemed, a great season confirmed in the minds of all football fans in the state.
 

Rage On

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I would never miss it. Not for one single second. In fact, I would celebrate the day that it disappeared.

I see no good reason for ISU to play the game. Nobody has ever given a good explanation as to why it is "good for the state". We could schedule cupcakes (look at who Kansas, K-State, and others play). I could argue that it has hurt us in some cases for bowl consideration or for close games later in the season (more plays on film, more players dinged up).

And most of all, it never shuts any EIU pie holes. In fact, they spend more time yapping just to come up with excuses for why they lost. Even when they got drubbed 23-3, they didn't lose to the better team.

Yes, Jon Miller, even you couldn't stop talking about how the game would have been different if Tate hadn't injured himself. It couldn't have been that ISU was just the better team on that day.
 

tzjung

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Considering the poll is about 80% should keep the series, I'm curious on why the only people on this board opening their pie-holes are the shmucks who think we should get rid of it? ARE YOU F*&^ING CRAZY? This game gives this state national attention and the fans within our state something to get excited abou!. Hell, even ESPN had an ESPN Classic day honoring the rivalry the day before our game a couple years ago.

Iowa and ISU should play every year, regardless. This thread is ******** and I truly am ashamed of all the other ISU fans who think we should scrap the series.

Go Clones, Forever kicking EIU's A$$!!!
 
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jbhtexas

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I would never miss it. Not for one single second. In fact, I would celebrate the day that it disappeared.

I see no good reason for ISU to play the game. Nobody has ever given a good explanation as to why it is "good for the state".

I've asked that same question in a couple of different posts, and have yet to see a viable, specific answer.

I guess one good thing, as opposed to when I was able to the "experience" the series, is that the present Iowa head coach isn't fanning the hatred by making stupid comments and insulting the ISU FB program in the press. I guess that's progress...