Dan Marino Suing The NFL

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Aikman could join him. That way he wouldn't have to pretend to be a commentator.
 

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You play sports there will be consequences. All these lawsuits are a joke.

except that, like in most things, it's not anywhere near that simple. It's all about what the league knew, when they knew it, and whether or not they shared the information. The long term effects of concussions and repeated low impact blows were barely being discussed back when Dan was playing. And the NFL went out of its way to attempt to hold up and discredit research into their effects and deny disability payments to it's former players for effects of head injuries incurred on the field. That's not something that can just be explained away with "You play sports there will be consequences." Certainly not well enough to dismiss a lawsuit out of hand. The league sure isn't taking that standpoint, as they've already agreed to settle with others for at least $750 million. The NFL does not want to go into discovery on this issue, probably because there's some pretty ugly skeletons in the closet.
 

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except that, like in most things, it's not anywhere near that simple. It's all about what the league knew, when they knew it, and whether or not they shared the information. The long term effects of concussions and repeated low impact blows were barely being discussed back when Dan was playing. And the NFL went out of its way to attempt to hold up and discredit research into their effects and deny disability payments to it's former players for effects of head injuries incurred on the field. That's not something that can just be explained away with "You play sports there will be consequences." Certainly not well enough to dismiss a lawsuit out of hand. The league sure isn't taking that standpoint, as they've already agreed to settle with others for at least $750 million. The NFL does not want to go into discovery on this issue, probably because there's some pretty ugly skeletons in the closet.


true but the #'s of suits are getting out of hand. Maybe everyone that's ever played should file one.
 

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true but the #'s of suits are getting out of hand. Maybe everyone that's ever played should file one.

You're right, it makes perfect sense that only a few players should be allowed anything and the NFL should be able to get by with lying to the remainder, as alleged.
 

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There'd be a lawsuit against your employer if you were told to use a chemical that they new would cause long term respiratory system damage. There are dozens of TV commercials of law firms seeking out employees that may have worked with a particular hazard so they can get their pay day. This doesn't seem that much different to me, except the numbers are bigger.
 

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lol. Now he's withdrawing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...o-to-withdraw-concussion-lawsuit-against-nfl/

"It was never Marino’s intention to initiate litigation in this case, but to ensure that in the event he had adverse health consequences down the road, he would be covered with health benefits...They are working to correct the error."

I see, it was an erroneous lawsuit. Sure. People accidentally file lawsuits all the time. Nothing fishy about that.
 

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"I didn't know getting blasted in the head can cause long term damage"
-Football Players and no one else
 

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"I didn't know getting blasted in the head can cause long term damage"
-Football Players and no one else

That's a pretty inaccurate description of the attitude regarding concussions from 20-30 years ago. Hell, even when I was in high school, nobody considered concussions to be that serious. Miss the rest of the game, back at practice on Monday.

Besides that, it's not just the big, flashy collisions that cause these effects. Even guys who never suffer a full-blown concussion can develop these symptoms.
 

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"I didn't know getting blasted in the head can cause long term damage"
-Football Players and no one else

"I didn't know repeated low impact contact could cause similar long term damage."
-Pretty much everyone.

"...And let's keep it that way."
-The NFL
 

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"I didn't know repeated low impact contact could cause similar long term damage."
-Pretty much everyone.

"...And let's keep it that way."
-The NFL



30+ years ago, when I started paying big money to put things in my head (college, not drugs), I stopped letting people hit me on the head.
 

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30+ years ago, when I started paying big money to put things in my head (college, not drugs), I stopped letting people hit me on the head.

And? This can't be that difficult to grasp. If the NFL and team doctors were telling players that concussions were nothing to be worried about, and the league either knew differently, or hampered/held up research into the subject, why shouldn't they be held responsible?

I mean, coal miners know that in their work, there's a potential risk for a mine collapse, but that doesn't absolve the company if it's found out they've been continually sending their miners into a shaft they know is unsafe.
 

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I think this is probably an issue that needs to be litigated, but Dan Marino probably isn't the right guy to carry the flag on this particular issue. I'm sure for every Dan Marino who made millions during his playing days and continue to make football his living through commentary, there is a guy who played for 4-5 years on minimum contracts who is now to beat up to maintain in the regular working world. While the crux of the lawsuit won't be "well Dan Marino sure seemed to make a lot of money, so who cares about the concussions" I still think the suit needs to originate from individuals who didn't make a fortune playing, and who are physically incapable of working a job because of the lack of safety they were afforded during their time in the NFL.
 

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"I didn't know getting blasted in the head can cause long term damage"
-Football Players and no one else

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/league-of-denial/

Here, everyone who wants to act like these guys are just crybabies looking for a handout can feel free to educate themselves on the topic. I like to watch football too, but I'm not going to pretend like the NFL is in the right here just because of that.
 

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I think this is probably an issue that needs to be litigated, but Dan Marino probably isn't the right guy to carry the flag on this particular issue. I'm sure for every Dan Marino who made millions during his playing days and continue to make football his living through commentary, there is a guy who played for 4-5 years on minimum contracts who is now to beat up to maintain in the regular working world. While the crux of the lawsuit won't be "well Dan Marino sure seemed to make a lot of money, so who cares about the concussions" I still think the suit needs to originate from individuals who didn't make a fortune playing, and who are physically incapable of working a job because of the lack of safety they were afforded during their time in the NFL.

Nobody pays attention when that guy files a suit though. You need some of the big names to attach themselves to the issue, otherwise people just brush it off as has-beens looking for a handout.
 

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Nobody pays attention when that guy files a suit though. You need some of the big names to attach themselves to the issue, otherwise people just brush it off as has-beens looking for a handout.

This.
 

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