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Haven't seen this posted: Des Moines Register article talking about Diante and his hope to follow in his Dad's footsteps to play in the NBA.

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The article notes that when he came to campus he could only bench 115lbs, but now is up to 140lbs. Wow--how does an athletic kid that plays sports make it through high school with such a low bench? I know that bench isn't always really important...but didn't he at least train?

Either way I am excited about him. Especially when he figures out that that "weak stuff doesn't work anymore" (McDermott's words). :wink:
 
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When I was a freshman in college I was able to bench 250lbs and a 2 year old golden retriever at the same time. I know, I'm pretty tough. It's science.
 

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Haven't seen this posted: Des Moines Register article talking about Diante and his hope to follow in his Dad's footsteps to play in the NBA.

DesMoinesRegister.com

The article notes that when he came to campus he could only bench 115lbs, but now is up to 140lbs. Wow--how does an athletic kid that plays sports make it through high school with such a low bench? I know that bench isn't always really important...but didn't he at least train?

Either way I am excited about him. Especially when he figures out that that "weak stuff doesn't work anymore" (McDermott's words). :wink:
I know lots of people put an emphasis on what a guy benches. But that is not the most important. I want to know what he squats and hang cleans and does on more explosive lifts. I could care less about a guys bench press, the same goes for football.
 

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hopefully he can get up to atleast 200 lbs by next year. 210 would be alot better at 6'4

That is going to be tough with his slight frame, considering he is probably 170 right now. I would think a legit 185 or 190 would be very impressive.
 

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Do you think they mean his max press? What he can bench 1 rep? Because that is way low for D1 athlete. Maybe the article means 12 or 15 reps but doesn't specify. Really, though, this is a non-issue. If he can be a scoring point guard that doesn't turn the ball over, I don't care if he benches 20 lbs.
 

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The 115lb bench doesnt suprise me... I had a high school teammate go play at Kansas State and I'm not sure he could even bench that, but he could jump out of the gym...
 

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When I was a freshman in college I was able to bench 250lbs and a 2 year old golden retriever at the same time. I know, I'm pretty tough. It's science.


You must have been able to sculpt your guns at the office...:mask:
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What I want to know is how to got the dog to stand on top of the 250 lbs...
 

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I actually totally agree that squat, clean, and the other power lifts are more important, but when you train you should still be developing all-around strength, which should translate to bench. The upside of this is that he obviously has a lot of room to grow and improve.
 

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I read that Kevin Durant couldn't (or can't) bench 185, I think this was during draft workouts. And he's averaging 25 pts in the NBA. It's just not that important to basketball.
 

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Um... that is sad for a D-1 athlete. I know a lot of Junior high kids that could beat him up.
 

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Um... that is sad for a D-1 athlete. I know a lot of Junior high kids that could beat him up.

I know with me personally, I was too busy playing four sports to really work out in high school. Plus, there really wasn't that much of an emphasis on it, especially in my two main sports, baseball and basketball... Our basketball team had no weight lifting program at all, all extra time was spent on the shooting machine and perfecting the motion offense. When I graduated high school I could MAYBE bench 150. BUT, working out twice a day in college and tripleing my caloric intake I went from 185 lbs to 225 and my bench increased from around 150 to 305. I also gained about 4 mph on my fastball.
 

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Until the NCAA changes the rules from going into overtime to decide a game to whoever's point guard can bench press the most, I am not going to worry about what Diante can bench.
 

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It's not that uncommon. Eustachy talked about how Mike Nurse could only bench like 115 before he came in as well.
 
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What I want to know is how to got the dog to stand on top of the 250 lbs...

I would attach it to the bar, sort of like how you attach a pig to a rod to roast it. FYI, I would not roast the dog though. Just bench it and move on. That's what I do.
 

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I read that Kevin Durant couldn't (or can't) bench 185, I think this was during draft workouts. And he's averaging 25 pts in the NBA. It's just not that important to basketball.

Bingo!!! Obviously, some upper body strength is needed, but lower body strength and jumping ability are more important in basketball. The legs power the jumpshot, and the legs/ lower torso power the ability to create and hold floor position, and power to the hoop.

I've read some articles which claim that too much bulk ("too much" being what would be considered "normal" for sports like FB) on the upper body is actually a hindrance to the shooting motion.

Endurance is also critical in BB. Gotta be able to keep those legs for the whole game...
 

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I remember hearing that Arkansas had to completely ban Corliss Williamson from the weight room because he was getting to bulky... He then started to use his bed to lift and they had to bolt it down to the ground so he couldn't do that... Dude was a freak!
 

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From my own experience weight training is essential to success in most sports, basketball included. It is especially useful on the defensive end in holding your ground, getting through screens, and fighting for rebounds. It is useful on the offensive end in fighting for rebounds, getting position, and reducing the effectiveness of ticky-tack fouls.