It’s especially silly given that we have been better in both basketball and football in the NIL era compared to before.
Disappointing season
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The biggest difference this year was our huge drop off defensively. Last year we had three Sr big men who had multiple years in the program and were tough as nails. That team had a real identity centered on toughness and effort.
We hoped to overcome it with better offense but we couldn’t.
It is obvious that Nojus is not fulfilling his complete obligation to the team- evidenced by the fact that TJ does not fully trust Nojus' "daily habits." I cannot imagine TJ recruits a kid like Nojus or Omaha only to waste them on the bench.
Better to vent here than on Bluesky or *gag* X. It's a fan site afterall.
To be honest BRE, Tre King, and Hasan Ward were better team players than Jefferson, Jackson, and Chatfield.
You're being VERY disengenuous by not including the expectations going into (and during) the season.
Is it better to have high expectations or having expectations that maybe if everything goes our way we might make the tournament and if we are really lucky, win a game?
It’s great to have high expectations. I prefer to have these expectations. It means this program is strong. But things do occur during a season (injuries mostly) that can change the outlook for a team. It doesn’t mean we can’t appreciate the season and how quickly the program has risen
Edit: and everyone has different expectations. When the team was ranked in the top 3, was your expectation final 4 or bust? It likely was for some people. But others may understand it can be difficult to win games in the tournament, and there is an element of luck in who you draw and what matchups you get. Expectations are only what you decide it to be
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Because it is not - in any way - relevant to “now” at all. It hasn’t been relevant since TJ walked in the door.
Um ok?
Point is we would have done anything to be in a position to be disappointed by a #3 and a NCAA tourney win.
I'm going to be 100% honest here. As much as I love football--more than basketball by a long shot--I'd be happier as a Cyclone fan if we concentrated enough NIL in basketball to actually contend. I also know that donors have input into that, and football revenue rules all.
The blue bloods get mad at early exits, but they know they can just reload. ISU kinda has to get a little lucky in finding some dudes that were overlooked, and then hope to keep them if they turn out to be good with some below average NIL.
That's just the world we live in, and in reality I don't see it ever changing without some massive shift in the way the NCAA runs business. I suppose it's still a lot better than it was not that long ago.
This season was a disappointment. I still enjoyed following this team and feel great about where our program is at.
It's efficient if you, like, actually put the ball through the hoop without turning it over.
Disappointing season, sure, but largely based on never having a healthy team since December.
Even with a healthy team, I don't think this team was elite 8 caliber. I will say the best basketball I have seen in many years at ISU was the 1st half against Auburn(maybe since 2000 team).
Even with a healthy team, I don't think this team was elite 8 caliber. I will say the best basketball I have seen in many years at ISU was the 1st half against Auburn(maybe since 2000 team).
On this I'll disagree. Having a 100% keyshon opens things up A LOT. He's pretty much the only guy with a handle that can create (and finish) at the rim, defend like crazy, AND shoot the occasional 3. He's really hard to defend, is a great defender, AND is extremely athletic. Lipsey just isn't quite as good offensively, and Jones is more of an outside shooter, not a finish at the rim guy. Momcilovic isn't even in the same league athletically and is just a totally different type of guard.
Gilbert is the type of player that makes a good team a contender for the final four and beyond, so finding out he's been fighting an injury (and supposedly only that even though he didn't even travel with the team??!) completely reset my expectations for this team. Then I saw the Ole Miss matchup and was gutted, since they thrive on turnovers. Lo and behold, we got our butts whooped.
I don't know how anybody can argue that it wasn't a disappointing season. I mean for Christ sakes, at one point we had realistic expectations of a one seed, achieving something that it literally never been achieved at this school before, and instead the team doesn't even make it out of the first weekend. Yes, obviously injuries play a role, but it doesn't change the fact that when you compare how it started to how it ended, really the last month to month and a half of the season, it's been a pretty big bummer. And part of the frustration is that it feels like some of the talent of these guys just was wasted. Especially when the offense just looks lost, like it did a big chunk of last night.
We didn't just lose one starting point guard. If Lipsey wasn't hurt Kelderman probably doesn't see the floor. We had 3 really good guards and a solid 4th in Heise. You can't really expect more depth than that. I'm sure the staff was hoping Nojus would be able to contribute but freshman are a crap shoot. He was a top 100 talent that didn't pan out this year. That's why transfers are such a hot commodity.
