dominique buckley

[tyler24]

McDermott has learned a few things since coming into the big 12, one being the importance of the recruits. Why can't he also learn he's not going to win with the athletes he has in a slow offense. Give him time, maybe he won't speed up things but he will find a way to win and i guarantee that!

 

[Wesley]

I think our offensive sets are going to look a lot different next year.

If we want to win, they better look different.


Stodgy football oline in 06 = quagmire bball offensive sets in 07-08.:daydreaming:

 

[Bobber]

Actually I don't assume he runs a slow down offense - we have years of information supporting that "assumption".

Last two were obviously very slow.

Greg's last year at UNI they had their tempo was 323rd.
In 2005 it was 236th.
2004 it was 246th.

Those were the three tourney trips. If anybody thinks we're going to all of a sudden go up tempo this is not the way McDermott coaches unless he's going to completely change his philosophy.

Where did you get these stats and what exactly do they mean?

 

[BryceC]

I got the stats from Kenpom.com. Ken Pomeroy is a stat guy who developed an RPI formula before the NCAA released theirs. He also was one of the pioneers of Tempo free stats - basically stats that are centered around production regardless of how quickly a team plays or how many possessions they have in a game.

He calls the number of possessions a team plays per game "tempo". Last year ISU averaged around 65 possessions per game, which was the 240th slowest team in the country and pretty much right on par with what McDermott has done since Pomeroy started keeping track of the stat. Tennessee for example played at a much quicker pace of about 72.5 possessions per game. Thus, more possessions, quicker tempo.

 

[Bobber]

I got the stats from Kenpom.com. Ken Pomeroy is a stat guy who developed an RPI formula before the NCAA released theirs. He also was one of the pioneers of Tempo free stats - basically stats that are centered around production regardless of how quickly a team plays or how many possessions they have in a game.

He calls the number of possessions a team plays per game "tempo". Last year ISU averaged around 65 possessions per game, which was the 240th slowest team in the country and pretty much right on par with what McDermott has done since Pomeroy started keeping track of the stat. Tennessee for example played at a much quicker pace of about 72.5 possessions per game. Thus, more possessions, quicker tempo.

Interesting stat. I'm kind of surprised the disparity isn't bigger between ISU and Tenessee. Interesting also however that Texas actually had the same tempo score as ISU and the eventual national winner Kansas was only marginally better at 68. So there doesn't seem to be much corelation between that stat and how good a team is?

 

[Bobber]

I got the stats from Kenpom.com. Ken Pomeroy is a stat guy who developed an RPI formula before the NCAA released theirs. He also was one of the pioneers of Tempo free stats - basically stats that are centered around production regardless of how quickly a team plays or how many possessions they have in a game.

He calls the number of possessions a team plays per game "tempo". Last year ISU averaged around 65 possessions per game, which was the 240th slowest team in the country and pretty much right on par with what McDermott has done since Pomeroy started keeping track of the stat. Tennessee for example played at a much quicker pace of about 72.5 possessions per game. Thus, more possessions, quicker tempo.

Also interesting to note ISU ranked 165 in offensive efficiency and an amazing 48th in defensive efficiency. The way we played this year I would have thought both scores would have been higher. Thanks for the link to this site. I will keep an eye on next year.

 

[necromancy]

Interesting stat. I'm kind of surprised the disparity isn't bigger between ISU and Tenessee. Interesting also however that Texas actually had the same tempo score as ISU and the eventual national winner Kansas was only marginally better at 68. So there doesn't seem to be much corelation between that stat and how good a team is?

I imagine a big part of the reason TN, TX, KU don't have that high of a tempo is because almost everyone who plays them has to slow it down to have any chance to win.

 

[BryceC]

7 more possessions is a lot when your effective FG% is over 50%. That's like 10 more points per game.

 

[Rolling Clones]

Not one single clip of his jump shot....hmmmmmm.

 

[ripvdub]

I thinks its a lot easier for PG's to come into college ball and make a smoother transition. their role really doesn't change. It's the big men that have to get used to playing bigger men in college.

I just hope he gets more minutes than BP, even tho BP played pretty for most of the Big XII season.

 

[Cyball]

I really don't see this happening. GMac is known for running a ton of plays and it looks like Romulus is on the opposite end of that spectrum. Hanging out just beyond half court toying with the defense isn't going to work in the Big 12 either. It'll either be in the opponents basket for an easy two or he'll be in the dog house for burning too much shot clock before the offense runs. He's going to have a huge adjustment, especially mentally. He'll probably progress very much like DG, probably slower. A comparison to Bates at QB might be appropriate.

That said, I think he has a much better upside that DG. Better prospect as a true point and passer. It just may not be until his last 2-3 years before we see that. DG probably saw more playing time than Buckley will too considering both him and Petersen are still in the mix. Might be a three headed monster at point next year.

I have seen him and his Romulus team play many games and if you are basing what he does on that one video, you are way off. He pushes the ball and the reason he was toying with that guy was because they were trying to use some clock, If you see any other videos he does not toy around very much at all and he has a deadly pull up jumper.

 

[kingcy]

Tempo is also affected by the teams you play. The Big 12 does have more teams than the MVC that push the ball. I think when McD gets players he is comfortable with and that play smart he will push it more. He has been in this conference 2 years he should know what needs to be done to win in the Big 12 by now. Dont count on Buckley starting next year, there was a lot of talk about DG starting this year and it never really happened, he did play a lot in crunch time though. McD will give the kid time to get used to the system before he starts him. A player can learn a lot sitting on the bench, expecally at the start of a game.

 

[Cyclone90]

I have seen him and his Romulus team play many games and if you are basing what he does on that one video, you are way off. He pushes the ball and the reason he was toying with that guy was because they were trying to use some clock, If you see any other videos he does not toy around very much at all and he has a deadly pull up jumper.

If so, that's great news. Just what the doctor ordered. Trying to defend Lucca, Buckley and/or DG, Wes and Brackins all at the same time would be difficult. It has been many years since ISU had any kind of consistent perimeter game - points without sacrificing TOs.

 

[PolkCityClone]

I thinks its a lot easier for PG's to come into college ball and make a smoother transition. their role really doesn't change. It's the big men that have to get used to playing bigger men in college.

I just hope he gets more minutes than BP, even tho BP played pretty for most of the Big XII season.

Kinda weird that you thought BP played pretty...Does that tell us something about you?:biglaugh: