Driving rant: PLEASE stop this!!

[besserheimerphat]

Ive had it with semi drivers in the passing lane on the interstate. Especially I-80. JFC you dont own the roads you inconsiderate pricks! Slow poke laws need to be a thing also.

I cut those guys a little break because the trucks are often electronically limited to between 65 and 70mph. They'd go faster if they could. The other issue is Iowa's rolling hills don't allow them to maintain speed differences long enough to actually pass quickly.

 

[MeanDean]

May i suggest switching to @brentblum . He might not know anything but he is a good dude.

Ok. Is he in insurance?

 

[MeanDean]

I’d say it that situation when stop signs are only N/S the vehicle going straight has the right of way unless the vehicle turning left enters the intersection prior to the other vehicle reaching a full stop. The only exception would be if cross traffic was clearing within a few seconds on the second vehicle of the second vehicle stopping. If it’s an extended stop going straight has the right of way.

Yeah, I think the "car that got there first" rule only applies to 4 way stops. Otherwise left turning yields to straight traffic. You wouldn't let a car that stopped opposite of you at a stop LIGHT turn left in front of you just because he got there first.

But I've been in that situation many times and it's like he said. Nobody really knows for sure, so it's basically a game of chicken at that point.

 

[madguy30]

My wife and I have been having this traffic debate for years. It's about the right-of-way protocol at a stop sign...

- Two cars are traveling in opposite directions, one north one south, approaching their respective stop signs at the intersection with a busier street.
- The car traveling south intends to continue heading south after passing through the intersection, the car traveling north intends to turn left at the intersection.
- The car traveling north, which intends to turn left, reaches its stop sign 5 seconds before the car traveling south reaches its stop sign.
- There's a steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street, which does not have a stop sign at the intersection, prior to both of the north/south cars reaching their stop sign.
- The steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street continues for 20 seconds after both of the north/south cars reach their stop signs.
- Traffic on the busier east/west street clears, and the north/south cars can now make their move.
- Again, the car traveling north that intends to turn left got to its stop sign first, before the car traveling south that intends to go straight, but they both sat there at the stop for 20 seconds.

Which car has the right of way?

One of us believes the car traveling north turning left at the intersection has the right of way, because it got to its stop sign first and has the right to make its left turn before the other car crosses.

One of us believes the car traveling south heading straight through the intersection has the right of way, because they both sat there for an extended period of time, making who got there first a moot point.

What say you?

Iirc you've brought this up before and I had this response that you argued with, even though it's the actual law unless it's different for some reason in whatever state it's happening, which opens up a can of worms for other situations.

-Legally the first vehicle to stop has ROW, just like at all way stop, etc.

If the vehicle going straight goes first, i.e. takes the ROW away from the other vehicle and causes a collision or even causes a change in direction or speed, they're, by law, at fault.

Maybe the left turner could be found liable for unneccessary stopping/impediment but I'm not sure how that's proven.

 

[madguy30]

Yeah, I think the "car that got there first" rule only applies to 4 way stops. Otherwise left turning yields to straight traffic. You wouldn't let a car that stopped opposite of you at a stop LIGHT turn left in front of you just because he got there first.

But I've been in that situation many times and it's like he said. Nobody really knows for sure, so it's basically a game of chicken at that point.

It applies for a cross traffic no stop/thoroughfare too.

 

[NWICY]

Ive had it with semi drivers in the passing lane on the interstate. Especially I-80. JFC you dont own the roads you inconsiderate pricks! Slow poke laws need to be a thing also.

The damn companies need to give the drivers autonomy when it comes to pass. The trucks are governed to block the damn road, Write some code to give them 2 minutes of unlimited throttle before returning to mandated settings.

If you want to watch a semi go fast, get out west behind a cattle semi on a hot day. Those boys got the hammer down with no throttle restrictions.

@besserheimerphat is my 1st paragraph actually possible with today's truck technology or just wishful thinking on my part? I know Indy car has push to pass with X number of uses per race.

 

[NWICY]

My wife and I have been having this traffic debate for years. It's about the right-of-way protocol at a stop sign...

- Two cars are traveling in opposite directions, one north one south, approaching their respective stop signs at the intersection with a busier street.
- The car traveling south intends to continue heading south after passing through the intersection, the car traveling north intends to turn left at the intersection.
- The car traveling north, which intends to turn left, reaches its stop sign 5 seconds before the car traveling south reaches its stop sign.
- There's a steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street, which does not have a stop sign at the intersection, prior to both of the north/south cars reaching their stop sign.
- The steady flow of traffic on the busier east/west street continues for 20 seconds after both of the north/south cars reach their stop signs.
- Traffic on the busier east/west street clears, and the north/south cars can now make their move.
- Again, the car traveling north that intends to turn left got to its stop sign first, before the car traveling south that intends to go straight, but they both sat there at the stop for 20 seconds.

Which car has the right of way?

One of us believes the car traveling north turning left at the intersection has the right of way, because it got to its stop sign first and has the right to make its left turn before the other car crosses.

One of us believes the car traveling south heading straight through the intersection has the right of way, because they both sat there for an extended period of time, making who got there first a moot point.

What say you?

I vote left turner but don't know the legal answer.