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Cy4Patriots

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Just get the V8. If you are buying a truck, you should be looking for capability not mileage.

Don't need the power all the time. That's what the EcoBoost is for. 90% of F-150's sold are equipped with EcoBoost.
 

jdoggivjc

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Lawsuits filed by different groups in Ohio and Louisiana is more than just a few folks with a lawyer friend, and over 100 complaints filed with NHTSA. Do you know what NHTSA is without googling it?

Yeah - they're the group that thinks that reducing the legal alcohol limit from .08 to .05 is going to be the thing that solves the drunk driving death problem in the US.
 

saf

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You can't use an EPA estimate. They are notoriously wrong with new technology. You will not get better mileage towing with a V6 ecoboost as opposed to the V8. My brother in law has one and is is getting far worse towing mileage than the 7 year old Silverado he had before. He is not happy with the vehicle.

What? Twin turbo V6s aren't new technology--I had one in my 2nd car and it was 8 years old at the time...15 years ago. You can argue that the EPA testing is high (or low if you are an ultramiler), but at least it is standardized. I'll take the data-driven analysis.

The big selling point for us was decent fuel economy (for a truck) and the towing capability. Every vehicle has terrible fuel economy when towing--towing capacity is another matter. We needed a truck that could reliably and comfortably tow the loads we needed. I think it is a step in the right direction.
 

cobraclone71

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10,000 grand!?!?

Ya, basically winds up being over $10,000 extra because in order to get the 6.2 you have to at least have a extended cab, different rear end ratio, and I'm not sure why you would get the 6.2 in 2wd. All together the 6.2 will be pricey.
 

brett108

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What? Twin turbo V6s aren't new technology--I had one in my 2nd car and it was 8 years old at the time...15 years ago. You can argue that the EPA testing is high (or low if you are an ultramiler), but at least it is standardized. I'll take the data-driven analysis.

The big selling point for us was decent fuel economy (for a truck) and the towing capability. Every vehicle has terrible fuel economy when towing--towing capacity is another matter. We needed a truck that could reliably and comfortably tow the loads we needed. I think it is a step in the right direction.
Go to a Ford forum. There is not a single person there with Ecoboost that gets within 10 MPG of the EPA estimate. The EPA estimate is standard bad. It assumes you are driving low end of the final gear, which is somewhere between 45-55 MPH. It also assumes flat terrain, and the mighty ecoboost is constantly downshifting. The technology is junk, I am sorry. The V8 will actually get better mileage towing because it can actually stay in the highest gear a larger percentage of the time.
 

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Go to a Ford forum. There is not a single person there with Ecoboost that gets within 10 MPG of the EPA estimate. The EPA estimate is standard bad. It assumes you are driving low end of the final gear, which is somewhere between 45-55 MPH. It also assumes flat terrain, and the mighty ecoboost is constantly downshifting. The technology is junk, I am sorry. The V8 will actually get better mileage towing because it can actually stay in the highest gear a larger percentage of the time.

You have never actually been in or around an Eco that is towing have you.
 

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Go to a Ford forum. There is not a single person there with Ecoboost that gets within 10 MPG of the EPA estimate. The EPA estimate is standard bad. It assumes you are driving low end of the final gear, which is somewhere between 45-55 MPH. It also assumes flat terrain, and the mighty ecoboost is constantly downshifting. The technology is junk, I am sorry. The V8 will actually get better mileage towing because it can actually stay in the highest gear a larger percentage of the time.

Again, what? We have Ecoboosts, we have V8s, we have diesels--the Ecoboost is a joy. Even my own experience is within 10 MPG of EPA: I am at 15.5/20 with a brand new truck and EPA is 17/21. I expect this to climb as it breaks in.

Towing is another animal and there isn't a towing MPG rating. The Ecoboost in my setup has almost a ton more in towing capacity over the small V8 and is the same as the big V8--plus it pulls very well. There is no free lunch, so there will be some downside to this, but not what you are describing. We also put a lower rear end in to help us out, but that is just outfitting your truck for your uses.
 

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I have a 2011 F-150 with the ecoboost. For the most part, I really like it and once it has gotten broken in, gets pretty good mileage for the type of driving I do.

My only issue with it sounds a little like what they are talking about in the lawsuit. Sometimes, when accelerating fairly rapidly, like getting on interstate or turning onto the highway, the engine seems to stall/pause for a second longer than I think it should when the transmission shifts.

Anyone else notice something similar?

I have a 2011 f-150 as well and have noticed what sounds like the exact same thing as you, but mine is not an eco boost. It seems to me like a transmission deal.
 

bringmagicback

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we went from all diesel pickups to gas this year. We pull stock trailers, water trailers, 8 or so big wet round bales ect (heavy stuff), dont really notice a power drop off. We figured we would have to drive our trucks to 200k miles to make the diesel pay off.

Ive never understood the guy with a camper or a boat w/ a diesel dually when we actually pull heavy stuff and have never needed it.
 

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I have a 2011 f-150 as well and have noticed what sounds like the exact same thing as you, but mine is not an eco boost. It seems to me like a transmission deal.

The new dodge has an 8spd tranny with a v6, more power than 99% of people would ever need and gets around 25mpg. Ford needs an 8spd.
 

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Go to a Ford forum. There is not a single person there with Ecoboost that gets within 10 MPG of the EPA estimate. The EPA estimate is standard bad. It assumes you are driving low end of the final gear, which is somewhere between 45-55 MPH. It also assumes flat terrain, and the mighty ecoboost is constantly downshifting. The technology is junk, I am sorry. The V8 will actually get better mileage towing because it can actually stay in the highest gear a larger percentage of the time.

Any vehicle forum like that must be taken with a grain of salt. The majority of people that post on vehicle forums such as that are their to simply whine and complain. Those who have good experiences aren't as likely to take the time and effort to post.
 

Cy4Patriots

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Go to a Ford forum. There is not a single person there with Ecoboost that gets within 10 MPG of the EPA estimate. The EPA estimate is standard bad. It assumes you are driving low end of the final gear, which is somewhere between 45-55 MPH. It also assumes flat terrain, and the mighty ecoboost is constantly downshifting. The technology is junk, I am sorry. The V8 will actually get better mileage towing because it can actually stay in the highest gear a larger percentage of the time.

Which means that all these F150's are getting 5 mpg? lol, really?
 

brett108

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You have never actually been in or around an Eco that is towing have you.

I have ridden in one, so yes, I have. In my experience the 2012 Tacoma V6 is a more capable towing vehicle. It is actually about the same price though, so the choice is a toss up. I would buy the Tacoma because its residual value is so good.

Also, the turbo is going to reduce the life of the engine, especially if you tow. The turbo is not only going to increase the heat, but build more cylinder pressure. It provides power, but alot more wear and tear as well.
 
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saf

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I have ridden in one, so yes, I have. In my experience the 2012 Tacoma V6 is a more capable towing vehicle. It is actually about the same price though, so the choice is a toss up. I would buy the Tacoma because its residual value is so good.

Also, the turbo is going to reduce the life of the engine, especially if you tow. The turbo is not only going to increase the heat, but build more cylinder pressure. It provides power, but alot more wear and tear as well.

The Tacoma has a max towing capacity of 6500 lbs--almost 2.5 tons less than the Ecoboost we've been talking about. Apples to oranges. Not even worth discussing, as they are different trucks for different purposes. Compare the Tacoma to the V6 F150--the Tacoma may be a better truck (I don't have much brand bias).

Turbo engines aren't ticking time bombs. They typically run lower base cylinder compression to account for the turbos and have proven to be very durable if designed properly.
 

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