Fred dont know how to stop
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No one is saying they played great defense on every 3 point shot, but why did you just cherry pick 5 of the worst examples?
Not really. You could find similar images of 3 point shots in any basketball game
Baylor was covering Thomas like a glove late in the game. I only remember 1 bad 3 by Niang where he was covered. Other than that he was wide open. I want him taking those shots.
Prince and Cherry both hit 50% of their 3's and Medford was ridiculous going 4-5. Overall 53% from 3-land. Give Baylor credit for a great game. It's going to happen now and then but hopefully if we can tighten up on 3-D and get in these guys faces more so we can help keep those %'s down. Fred was emphasizing down low help (Gathers) weakside, picks, as Baylor was crashing the boards hard and we just couldn't get back out on the perimeter in time for solid body-up D. It would be great if we had a Chris Babb who would of shut down Prince but we don't. We got beat at our own game. Just don't want to get stereotyped as the team that lackadaisically doesn't defend the 3. Fred will make his adjustments for next time and be ready. On to K-State.
Don't forget how we lost in Baylor. We gave up 19 offensive rebounds and Gather and Motley destroyed us inside (one of the few times that has happened). That probably explains the emphasis on in the inside in this game.
Was waiting for you to follow that up with "any ISU basketball game this season." Didn't see it, so FIFY I guess. Seriously though, how can you defend that defense?
I don't think people are defending the defensive play in particular Wednesday, just the general defensive philosophy. I think the defensive game plan is good, but poorly executed on that particular night.
I don't think they looked at all like they thought they already had it won. With 5 minutes left to go they were down by three after having given up a 7 point lead on back to back to back to back 3's and Baylor had the ball. I think you are wrong.
Drew's last timeout was one of the most curious timeouts that even he has taken. You only have one timeout left with over 8 minutes left in the game. You just hit a three to cut the opponent's lead down to five and you call your last timeout? Keep in mind that this is less than one minute after Drew had called his second to last timeout. I didn't agree with Fred not using one of his timeouts toward the end to settle down his players when they kept turning it over, but to say that every one of Drew's timeouts was good is just not true. He clearly wasted his last timeout. I'm surprised that Fred didn't randomly press Baylor from the 8 minute point on. They could have gotten a couple of turnovers simply by trapping with no timeouts for Baylor to use.
I'd say games like @ KU and OU, when they were hitting uncontested 3's that the game plan and/or execution were suspect but Baylor hit a lot of contested shots. I think if you asked him, Fred would rather give them some of the 3 attempts they took rather than letting Gathers and Co get going down low. Gathers having to sit was a blessing in disguise for them, it allowed them to go with a more perimeter oriented lineup, a lineup that was a much better matchup for how we were playing them defensively. Benching Gathers ended up being a brilliant (accidental) move from Scott Drew, no one will want to hear it but he outcoached Fred, it was a total fluke thing that happened but it was still the difference in the game.
If we do get down 6 or more under 5 min I think we will see the press. Even if we aren't down I think Fred is going to experiment with it during the game to see if can result in some turnovers and points. This team isn't going to always have the offensive threats (match-ups) to get back in it like in the past with Melvin, DeAndre and Babb. With a unique player like McKay why not press with his length, stamina and covers the court like a gazelle. Attacking defensively with a press or over extending on the wings has to be an option if we aren't hitting our shots as a way to get back into a game. A key will be recovering and getting back in position. We can't, we'll get burned and this won't work. Will depend on how hard our guys work at it. I would guess Fred went over the game film extensively with just the coaches and also the players on game strategy, recovery adjustments and THE PRESS.. Good point VeloClone
I'm not defending ISU's defense at all. It was awful. The players themselves said that they were embarrassed by the defensive effort.
I'm just saying that those images shouldn't be used to as evidence to claim that our defense was bad. Pick a random game, and capture screenshots of 3 point attempts. A lot of those screenshots will look like the images in that post.
