Friday AI - We welcome our robot overlords

madguy30

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That’s fine. I’m never going to hire someone who obviously didn’t write their own resume or cover letter. I guess just take your chance

Where does taking 5 minutes to type out a copy of a general format but be a terrible worker sit on this?
 

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Huh?? Whatever dude. I’m done. Not worth the effort. Keep letting computers do the **** you don’t want to do. Don’t come here pissed off that you are so oppressed. Trying to actually give you some advice. In the corporate world, you won’t get any sympathy and you won’t be allowed to rely on AI. good luck.
I do some hiring at a Fortune 100 company, and the rapid embrace of AI here has been shocking. Our talking point around here is that AI isn't going to take your job, but somebody with strong AI skills might. We highly encourage the use of AI tools at work to help automate typical office tasks to improve efficiency and allow employees to free up time for other tasks. So someone using AI to help create a resume would just show me that they have some comfort with the tools, and that is a good thing to us. Assuming they at least edited for accuracy and didn't let the AI put anything on there that wasn't true.

Companies are going to have to adapt to some of this stuff or they will get left behind.

Would you have taken a similar position back in the late 1970s if an applicant had done their resume on a word processor with a computer instead of a typewriter? Would you have viewed that as someone taking a shortcut or the easy way out? Or was that applicant someone who was keeping up with the technology and using the tools at their disposal to get the job done more efficiently?
 

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Just to play devil's advocate...

Mankind has always had that. There was no AI during the Civil War here or in many other countries. Moving other people to action is one of the purposes of language.



Science is proving that animals other than humans have the ability to reason.

As for determining what is real or fiction, again, mankind has always fallen for hoaxes.

Remember The National Enquirer? Or even, this tidbit from Iowa history (I remember learning about this in 8th grade...)




As in all things, people are right to be cautious.

But our ability to reason also allows us to look at the issue with open minds.

"Science is proving that animals other than humans have the ability to reason"

And now you just made a case for goddam Planet of the Apes too.

Our ability to reason and determine truth from fiction will be impacted more and more. Already people are tricking the elderly to pay ransom by using AI voices. I have zero faith humanity will have the ability to use reason and logic before AI does incredible damage.

As AI gets better and better more will not be able to separate what used to be a National Enquirer level misrepresentation from truth.

A fraudster can make a voice print in 4 seconds and drain your account. A fraudster can trick CEOs into approving multimillion dollar wires.

The money is there to do awful things with the technology. Technology that my industry says we absolutely cannot detect. This is next level **** on top of just job losses/evolution.

So I'll just pump $$ into NVDA stock and wait for the world to figure this out.
 
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I think what many of those of us who use AI are saying is that we wouldn’t ever use it for something important, but it is great at generating the mundane or day-to-day. If I need to write a business email thanking clients for a meeting, I can save myself time for other more important tasks if I use AI to get a starting point. I was at a meeting about a year ago where Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google, was asked how he uses AI. He said that he uses it to write mundane emails that he needs to save time on.

I don’t overall love generative AI for the entire composition of a photograph, as I do some art stuff. But for spot corrections where there was a tiny fire hydrant in the way or something like that, it is incredibly helpful. I can do that manually, but AI can do it so much more efficiently.

Exactly. Nobody's arguing that you tell AI to write your resume and submit it sight unseen, though I'm sure people do that and probably not very successfully. You let it do the busy work and then refine it so it truly is yours.

Think of it this way: five years ago, if you had to write a resume and cover letter and weren't confident in your writing abilities, you would use a template from Microsoft Word and then cut/paste your job description or go Google a job description like yours. Then you'd customize it a little with your own accomplishments or stats. And then for a cover letter you'd Google one of the hundreds of templates out there and read a few articles from HR professionals about how to make your cover letter stand out. Voila.

AI is just doing all that for you now. I do chuckle at the idea that corporate HR, who is responsible for creating an entire cottage industry around teaching people to write resumes and cover letters to get past the screeners, would take offense.
 
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Every time I see the commercials where the gal lies to someone that she remembers everything I have a cringey feeling. So that is the selling point for AI? That you can pretend to be smarter than you are?

Hopefully AI does a much better job of vetting it's information sources than the average American or we are doomed.

If this makes you feel better or worse...

The times I've caved and used midjourney for parts of my work it's 80% anime/pokemon fantasies and 10% people developing horrible ideas for their horrible weird businesses, think "Prestige Worldwide" from Step Brothers movie trying to come up with logos and photos to make themselves look cool.

80% "make this pokemon look more like I want it to look, slight variation of specific pokemon that already exists"
10% "show two guys on a boat looking really cool and rich like they own the world and have all the beautiful, women and are the greatest businessmen ever, and show them in white suits"

It's seriously a lot of that. the other 10% might be really legit business use which is the scary part.
 

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Help with coding for statistics, can be a lifesaver so can’t wait until it can really do it for me, but have had a few times where I wasted too much time trying to make it work instead of using other resources. Have played with it for a few writing tasks, but mostly cautious about that for data security purposes.
 

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10 years ago this series was considered science fiction, watching it today would it still be thought of as such? But to answer the question, no, have never used it.
 
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It has nothing to do about evolving. If I’m hiring someone, I want to know they can think and express on their own. If they can’t even write their own resume, it tells me they can’t perform the job I’m asking them to do

Guess what, Boomer. People have been using resumé models since I was in high school (70's). The difference now is less typing.

What's more, I'd be willing to bet my grandma (if she were still alive) that you would not be able to tell just who wrote a person's resumé.

Seems to me what you're looking for is covered in the job interview itself. That's where you tell if Joe Employee wrote his own resumé or if his wife did.

In the meantime, a person who takes the time and trouble to send you the very best formatted document is one who deserves to get an in-person audience.
 

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My dad is a Boomer. I’m not, just a nickname. A nickname before “Boomer” was ever a now negative for you young folks. Just trying to say, you’re going out onto the world and are attempting to be hired by folks like me. IF, we know you didn’t write your resume or cover letter, you’re not getting a call back
 

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I think what many of those of us who use AI are saying is that we wouldn’t ever use it for something important, but it is great at generating the mundane or day-to-day. If I need to write a business email thanking clients for a meeting, I can save myself time for other more important tasks if I use AI to get a starting point. I was at a meeting about a year ago where Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google, was asked how he uses AI. He said that he uses it to write mundane emails that he needs to save time on.

I don’t overall love generative AI for the entire composition of a photograph, as I do some art stuff. But for spot corrections where there was a tiny fire hydrant in the way or something like that, it is incredibly helpful. I can do that manually, but AI can do it so much more efficiently.

Working in 3D product design (stuff like a Spider-Man action figure or a Minion stuffed animal toy), sadly I think AI tools are far better at the fun creative visual art stuff than more dry problem solving details. Humans don't REALLY need to be a visual artist anymore with the exception of the highest levels of visual art, but thankfully we're still needed to communicate with other humans to solve problems at least for now.

With a really good descriptive paragraph it can do 90% of the concept art we human artists used to do, the part a lot of artists/designers would consider the "fun" part. It can't deal with all the engineers, factories, licensors and clients. At least not yet. If you hand a visual concept done by AI to an exec, client or sales person, they're more likely to criticize that they can tell it was done by AI than the actual quality itself. I'm guessing that goes away within a year or two, very soon. Artists are already better at spotting the difference than non artists who are likely to be fooled already.
 
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If I was your manager and found this out, you wouldn’t have the job long
I disclosed it in the interview and used it as an example of utilizing available resources to not only improve the final product, but to deliver it in less time and with less manpower.

But it's ok, not everyone is willing to be forward thinking.
 

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My dad is a Boomer. I’m not, just a nickname. A nickname before “Boomer” was ever a now negative for you young folks. Just trying to say, you’re going out onto the world and are attempting to be hired by folks like me. IF, we know you didn’t write your resume or cover letter, you’re not getting a call back
Yeah, you guys are never going to get hired at his floppy disk manufacturing company or whatever it is with an AI written resume.
 

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I disclosed it in the interview and used it as an example of utilizing available resources to not only improve the final product, but to deliver it in less time and with less manpower.

But i's ok, not everyone is willing to be forward thinking.
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I don't use it at all. As someone who is creative (at least as a hobby), AI makes me uneasy.

I've used chatgpt a little bit here and there. It's big in my industry and a lot of tech bros are all gas no brakes on it. I am decidedly less gung ho on it because I think the people running the show are far more oblivious to and less affected by the risks. Between the natural resource consumption, the risk to marginalized communities, and lack of legal boundaries - it doesn't quite keep me up at night yet but uneasy is a good term.
 
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newsflash, everyone is using it to draft their resumes and cover letters.
News flash. I want someone who can think on their own. Doesn’t even need to be perfect. In fact, I prefer it isn’t but the bones are there. It you ask 100 hiring managers, I bet 90 would say the same.
 

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As a hiring manager. Which I am. I would never hire someone who took a short cut. It says more about their work effort than anything. Call me old school. That’s fine. But young adults out there looking for jobs need to know that us “old farts”
are actually taking these things into account when hiring.
As a former hiring manager, I would consider using AI to get a rough draft and then revising it not a shortcut but a simple example of work smart not hard. If the resume is complete BS it isn't hard to figure that out quickly in an interview. Noticed that a ton when interviewing contractors (software engineering) who had less than 5 years of experience, but their resume was 10 pages long.
 

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